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Thread: 2018-19 | ECQF | New York Islanders (M2) v. Pittsburgh Penguins (M3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Cooper is a douche and Tampa basically ended the Rangers run as a legit contender back in 2015. It was all downhill from there. Now I hope the same happens to them and their fake ass fan base.

    Fuck the Isles, I guess I just don’t see them as a threat to win the Cup (I do have them getting to the ECF in my bracket). Hope I don’t eat my words.


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    I think the Rangers did it to themselves rather than Tampa ending their run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    You'll understand when you're older, son.
    Holding 35 year grudges over a game we have no control over?
    I will admit to cheering Potvin Sucks when I hear the whistle, but do I actually care about Denis Potvin and the legal check he threw on our player (who’a name I don’t even fucking remember) three decades ago? No.

    I do care that the Rangers don’t show up to play the Islanders and it’s been that way for a few seasons now, but again, we’re bad. Gimme the number 2 pick on June 23rd and until then, I’ma enjoy playoff hockey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Cooper is a douche and Tampa basically ended the Rangers run as a legit contender back in 2015. It was all downhill from there. Now I hope the same happens to them and their fake ass fan base.

    Fuck the Isles, I guess I just don’t see them as a threat to win the Cup (I do have them getting to the ECF in my bracket). Hope I don’t eat my words.


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    The Rangers ended their run in 2015, not TB. Rangers came into Game 7 thinking they had the game in the bag since they never lose in a Game 7 at home, then proceed not to show up. 11 shots on goal through the 1st 2 periods of that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb[emoji769
    ;965126]Holding 35 year grudges over a game we have no control over?
    I will admit to cheering Potvin Sucks when I hear the whistle, but do I actually care about Denis Potvin and the legal check he threw on our player (who’a name I don’t even fucking remember) three decades ago? No.

    I do care that the Rangers don’t show up to play the Islanders and it’s been that way for a few seasons now, but again, we’re bad. Gimme the number 2 pick on June 23rd and until then, I’ma enjoy playoff hockey.
    Damn right. History is part of what goes into any loyalty. The history with the Islanders is baked into what it means to be a Ranger fan, then and now.

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    I can see the islanders thing, but I seriously have no idea how some rangers fans rather want Tampa out because they beat us once in 2015 (get over it) instead of getting a 1st round pick. And yeah, I know a 31st is not a guaranteed NHL player, but its better for the rangers. You are actually chearing for another team instead of wanting «your» team to get better? Dosent really make sense as a fan.


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    There's no guarantee that pick 31 makes my team any better than pick 60.
    I do agree that if I can say, "get over it" to people who hate the Isles, then I should be able to "get over" the '15 loss.
    I'm not yet though. And I fucking hate the Lightning.

    TBL/NYR has been a much bigger rivalry than NYR/NYI in recent years. Couple that with the trades we've made with TBL and it's just easier for my head to make that emotional connection. Fuck the Lightning. The Isles - meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb[emoji769
    ;965138]There's no guarantee that pick 31 makes my team any better than pick 60.
    I do agree that if I can say, "get over it" to people who hate the Isles, then I should be able to "get over" the '15 loss.
    I'm not yet though. And I fucking hate the Lightning.

    TBL/NYR has been a much bigger rivalry than NYR/NYI in recent years. Couple that with the trades we've made with TBL and it's just easier for my head to make that emotional connection. Fuck the Lightning. The Isles - meh.
    Pretty soon you're gonna tell me you kinda like the Flyers.

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    Not sure I can like an AV team. Hopefully he makes them trade Gudas...to us.
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    I can root for the isles to knockout the pens and then for the Jackets or Caps or whomever to knock out the isles.

    Just not Boston. Fuck Marchand.

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    2018-19 | ECQF | New York Islanders (M2) v. Pittsburgh Penguins (M3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Heaven View Post
    The Rangers ended their run in 2015, not TB. Rangers came into Game 7 thinking they had the game in the bag since they never lose in a Game 7 at home, then proceed not to show up. 11 shots on goal through the 1st 2 periods of that game.
    True, not having Zucc was the difference IMO. I’m just glad after that high point for that franchise they’ve had nothing but post season heartbreak. Fuck them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    Not sure I can like an AV team. Hopefully he makes them trade Gudas...to us.
    They've reshuffled the conferences a half a dozen times, but in the end my strongest feelings come down to the division rivalries: Islanders, Flyers, Devils, Penguins. Division races down to the wire, playoff series both epic and forgotten, they're the ones who just keep showing up. Boston has a special place in my internal inferno, which began when they were division rivals.

    For your edification, April 12, 1975 was the original sin. There had been no Islanders until 1972. (The Devils were still a gleam in John McMullen's eye.) At that point, the Rangers were 32 years into a Cup drought and enduring the frustration of '70-73, including losing in the Finals to the Bruins ("We Did Everything But Win"). Most Ranger fans were ok with having a team somewhere the fuck out on the Island as long they sucked. When J fucking P Parise (father of Zach) scored a goal in overtime after a massive Rangers comeback on;y 3 years into their existence, it was way too early for them to actually compete with us - and a complete shock. We beat them in '79 to get to Montreal in the finals. But then we had to watch them win 4 Cups in a row - then 43 years into a Cup drought - including going through us to get to 3 of them and losing 4 straight playoff series to them. Beyond excruciating and in the Rangers organizational DNA.

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    Yes, for fans like RodrigueGabriel and I, 4/12/75 was the original sin. The Devils or Flyers could win 20 cups and would never be hated as much as the Islanders. Nothing can make me forget the trauma of listening on the radio (no cable in those days) as the Rangers heroically came back from 3-0 down in the Third Period and then 11 seconds into OT. Game 1 of the '72 finals figures in the interno as well, but nothing was like 4/12/75. There was no "wait til next year." It was over.

    The Islanders must be rooted against, always. Their merits cannot be acknowledged. It came back in my DNA report from 23andme. I am hardwired. I stopped rooting for the Mets, Knicks and Jets 30 years ago. But the DNA commands Ranger loyalty and hatred of the Islanders.

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    The loss in that series not only represented a shift in the balance of power, it ripped the team apart. The following October 29, Vezina winner and fan favorite Ed Giacomin was put on waivers and claimed by Detroit. 10 days later, Emile Francis made the mindless trade of Jean Ratelle, Brad Park, and Joe Zanussi to the Bruins for Phil Esposito and Carol Vadnais, which began the Rangers' habit of acquiring over-the-hill stars unable to even approximate their previous career performance that would later include Ken Hodge, Marcel Dionne, Guy LaFleur, Pavel Bure, and many others. Fuck the Islanders. "Potvin sucks" should live forever, or until we win 4 Cups in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bieser View Post
    I agree. Could it be an age thing? I'm a little older and remember what it was like when the Islander fans abused me on a day to day basis. I mean root how you want. No big deal but I wanted that 1st rounder.
    Of course we wanted the 1st rounder, but let's be honest here; that pick was never in play from the beginning of the 2nd period in game 1. Tampa was outworked, outplayed and Torts outcoached Cooper as Tampa was utterly cleaned out.
    As for the Isles, it's definitely not an age thing for me, but it's a great story and I've been enjoying it. I really can't help respecting the incredible job Trotz has done with them. I'm not here rooting for a cup run for them, but I enjoyed them sweeping the Pens all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    I have a lifelong disdain for the Islanders (I was among the in-person casualties on April 12, 1975) and lived through 4 fucking straight Cups, but I like Trotz both for his coaching philosophy and the way he dealt with getting pissed on by Brian McClellan in DC. As soon as we're competitive again, any vestige of that will go away.
    Depending on who you talk to the biggest Rangers rivals are Islanders, Devils, and Flyers. I grew up in Jersey during their Cup runs and endured the 1940 chants so hate the Devils and will never root for them in any situation or series. Ranger fans that grew up closer to Philly hate the Flyers most. Sounds like you have had to deal with obnoxious Islanders fans the most. Proximity to rival fans breeds contempt. A lot of folks pick out a rival they hate the most - you could argue that Rangers fans should hate the Islanders, Devils, and Flyers equally - but in practice if you're continually exposed to fans of one of the three, that's who you despise the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    Of course we wanted the 1st rounder, but let's be honest here; that pick was never in play from the beginning of the 2nd period in game 1. Tampa was outworked, outplayed and Torts outcoached Cooper as Tampa was utterly cleaned out.
    As for the Isles, it's definitely not an age thing for me, but it's a great story and I've been enjoying it. I really can't help respecting the incredible job Trotz has done with them. I'm not here rooting for a cup run for them, but I enjoyed them sweeping the Pens all the same.
    I cringed every time I heard "the Rangers could have 4 first rounders." The Dallas thing has always been a huge long shot and, as dominant as Tampa was, there is just too much that can go wrong along the way to count on a condition like that. It was always built on sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Chief View Post
    Or when the older half of your own family are Ranger fans and the younger side Isles (who grew up spoiled with 4 Cups in a row dynasty...)
    Now that would be tough.

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    I don't see how you can have family members who are Islanders fans. There is always the option of disowning them. Stay pure, my friend. And don't think the hockey gods weren't at work when they had Parise's son score the OT goal that kept us from the finals in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    Yes, for fans like RodrigueGabriel and I, 4/12/75 was the original sin. The Devils or Flyers could win 20 cups and would never be hated as much as the Islanders. Nothing can make me forget the trauma of listening on the radio (no cable in those days) as the Rangers heroically came back from 3-0 down in the Third Period and then 11 seconds into OT. Game 1 of the '72 finals figures in the interno as well, but nothing was like 4/12/75. There was no "wait til next year." It was over.

    The Islanders must be rooted against, always. Their merits cannot be acknowledged. It came back in my DNA report from 23andme. I am hardwired. I stopped rooting for the Mets, Knicks and Jets 30 years ago. But the DNA commands Ranger loyalty and hatred of the Islanders.
    ^THIS!

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    Johnny Boychuk to miss 3-4 weeks with lower-body injury for Islanders
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