Phil Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 :tweet: @NicholsOnHockey: Dreger: "There are whispers that it's going to be $14 million for Connor McDavid." #Oilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Not bad. That's #3 starting pitcher money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Can McDavid and Draisaitl do for Edmonton what Kane/Toews has done for Chicago or Crosby/Malkin have done for Pittsburgh? If they can, with a rotating cast of support players, then he's worth taking up 19% of the cap. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'd argue yes, and on the right side of the age-to-price scale, too. Edmonton will be paying $14M for McDavid from 21-29, for example, instead of Chicago paying for Toews from 27-34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He's still signed through next season, right? 14m - jesus. But yeah, damn, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yes, next season is the final year of his ELC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He's already proven he's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Bridge him. 4m for 2y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Why? All that does is offset the years in which you'll need to pay a premium for his services. Instead of ages 21-29, now you're paying for ages 23-31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I thought it was a cap for how much one player can make? I guess he is worth it, but damn thats a looot of money for 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 There is. It's percentage based on the salary cap. $14M is near that percentage. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Sane thought dictates that this is a mistake, considering *most* of the competitive teams in the league are built around a solid core of players, none of which make half of that money. But then you look at the past few groups of champions, who have two exceptionally gifted players surrounded by another set of either aging veterans / hungry youngsters and it starts to make sense. This is a tough call if you are GM I think. There are clear dangers with signing such a player to such a huge contract. Look at what happened to NJD, who basically were held ransom by one guy and you could argue that this one guy's actions screwed the franchise for a substantial period of time. On the other hand, you look at what the two guys (Crosby and Malkin) have done in Pittsburgh and you start thinking. I'm a more conservative guy so this is not something I would be doing, I think. I'd prefer the bridge and see what happens, and then if I have to pay him I'll pay him. Can't fault any GM for jumping in though, especially after seeing the kid play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 There's no doubt that they need to sign him right away. 14 mill is the same as Nash and Staal got here. U can afford to pay a guy like McDavid that kind of money. Just need to be smart with the rest of the team, and it will have to be a lot of rookies/"scrap" just the way Penguins have done it the last couple years, and you obviously see it's working. A team needs leaders, and most importantly a dominant C, just look at the last cup winners (Crosby, and Malkin for Pens, Toews for Hawks, Kopitar for Kings). there are enough of bottom-6 talent that can do the work for a cheap price, but Stanley Cups are won by the top 6 (and thats a big part of Rangers "failure" the last years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 There's no doubt that they need to sign him right away. 14 mill is the same as Nash and Staal got here. I think they're talking about AAV. That's basically double what Nash gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think they're talking about AAV. That's basically double what Nash gets. Yeah I know. I meant nash and Staal combined. So basically if we swap McDavid and an ELC-Dman for Nash and Staal would be the same cap-wise. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think they're talking about AAV. That's basically double what Nash gets. I think he meant combined between the two, Nash and Staal make ~14 Edit - He beat me to the punch. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yeah I know. I meant nash and Staal combined. So basically if we swap McDavid and an ELC-Dman for Nash and Staal would be the same cap-wise. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Oh gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 :tweet: @Sportsnet #Oilers superstar Connor McDavid is likely to sign an eight-year extension with an AAV of about $13.25 million I wonder how this will affect the Tavares negotiations with the Isles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 :tweet: @Sportsnet I wonder how this will affect the Tavares negotiations with the Isles. I don't think there's a player in the world who should be compared to this contract. Nobody is as good and few are as young. McDavid can't even buy brewskis yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 not to hijack the thread but why in the world would Tavares want to stay an Islander... i'd figure he'd have Toronto written all over him. back on track 14 mln for mc david. would be nice if the garden had this kind of tough decision to make once in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pws85nyr Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 That's a lot! Not helping his team there in terms of cap. Offer sheets for Draisaitl here we come. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 That's a lot! Not helping his team there in terms of cap. Offer sheets for Draisaitl here we come. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk the extension won't take effect until next year, so it won't impact the current $16+ mil in cap space they have to sign Draisailt with. And they will trade RNH before the extension kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 :tweet: @Sportsnet I wonder how this will affect the Tavares negotiations with the Isles. It won't. Tavares' comparables are going to be Kane and Toews. McDavid is an anomaly, and is signing for all of his prime years. The good thing about him not taking less, however, is that future league stars (Mattews, Marner, Laine, etc) will have an easier time justifying why they deserve big money early as opposed to the old school mentality of forcing RFAs to take bridge deals to the point that when you finally buy long-term, you're buying most of their least productive years. This is evolution at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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