I guess but people on here tend not to allow for either conversation when it comes to a guy like Fox. Fox was playing bad hockey for him. Points aside. Panarin, Mika, Kreider, and Trouba have all struggled this year. That doesn't make them bad players but ignoring that reality isn't a logical take either. The constant drum beat on this forum anyway is that the Rangers problems are the bottom 6. The bottom 6 is a problem but why? It's a problem because it was built to be a problem. This team is constructed as a top heavy team. There is big money throughout paid to stars. That left kids and misfits to fill out the bottom 6. The stars are not performing. They get their points on the power play but they are getting worked 5 on 5. The problem with this team is the top 6, structure and desire. Intensity is not Panarin, Kreider, Mika, Fox's strong suit. None of them are going to mixed up for guys skating through a brick wall to win a game. They are all passive players. Highly skilled but extremely passive. The only big money leader on this team that plays with emotion and grit is Trouba. Yet he does so without hockey sense in a lot of ways. This team is a reflection of their stars, like any team really. They are skilled but they are unwilling/unable to out work or out will anybody. Going to the net, playing tough defense, getting second chances, forechecking/backchecking, protecting their net, etc are all things that don't require elite skill yet they are all things this team does not do. You cannot rely on your bottom 6 to be your only source of these things. It has to be a complete team effort. Those deficiencies are a direct reflection of the leaders on this team. Some of them have to go. It's just a bad mix