Phil Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 So Callahan just lost a shit load of money in taxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 If Callahan can be moved for an actual hockey player, I feel like the Rangers probably have options other than buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 If Callahan can be moved for an actual hockey player, I feel like the Rangers probably have options other than buyout. EVERYONE has Ottawa on their NTC list, though. Players have NTC/NMC because they DONT want to be traded. They will put most teams in Canada, any teams with cap space on that NTC list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 That seems like a very cheap salary dump for the Lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Isn't Callahan going on LTIR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 That seems like a very cheap salary dump for the Lightning. That's because the Sens save a couple million in actual cash payouts. It was a dump for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Isn't Callahan going on LTIR? thought so too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 If Callahan can be moved for an actual hockey player, I feel like the Rangers probably have options other than buyout. Cally doesn't have another year, if you're comparing him to the D (Smith, Shatty). Yes, they can move Strome and Namest. EVERYONE has Ottawa on their NTC list, though. Players have NTC/NMC because they DONT want to be traded. They will put most teams in Canada, any teams with cap space on that NTC list. Depends. Cally had an NTC too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 This is an unusual trade that doesn't speak to the Rangers' situation. Cally was owed money but did not incur a cap hit. Ott is paying money, in the form of taking on Cally, in exchange for TB taking Condon off Ottawa's hands. It's strange that the deal involves TB adding cap. You'd expect a deal between these teams to go the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 This is an unusual trade that doesn't speak to the Rangers' situation. Cally was owed money but did not incur a cap hit. Ott is paying money, in the form of taking on Cally, in exchange for TB taking Condon off Ottawa's hands. It's strange that the deal involves TB adding cap. You'd expect a deal between these teams to go the other way. The tl;dr version is that Ott is better able to get to the cap floor and will save money in actual cash payouts. I'm pretty confused as to why Tampa did it though, as well. I guess there might be a benefit to burying Condon in the minors instead of using LTIR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The tl;dr version is that Ott is better able to get to the cap floor and will save money in actual cash payouts. I'm pretty confused as to why Tampa did it though, as well. I guess there might be a benefit to burying Condon in the minors instead of using LTIR? it actually makes sense for both teams now that I think about it. Sens don't have to pay Callahan because he'll be on LTIR, insurance pays his salary. So Melnik saves cash. TB freed up cap space cause Condon's caphit is only $1.37 million if buried in AHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 it actually makes sense for both teams now that I think about it. Sens don't have to pay Callahan because he'll be on LTIR, insurance pays his salary. So Melnik saves cash. TB freed up cap space cause Condon's caphit is only $1.37 million if buried in AHL Not really. Cally's cap hit is 0 on LTIR. They've added cap with Condon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Not really. Cally's cap hit is 0 on LTIR. They've added cap with Condon. I think they're saving on bonuses with Cally being traded, but not cap. maybe that's their strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I see no coherent explanation developing from the posters, which is, for now, because there is no coherent explanation. If Tampa was not paying $ to Cally because it is insured and not incurring a cap hit, he is inert, and there would be no detriment to keeping him for TB and no benefit to the Senators in getting him. Can't understand this. There must be some benefit to TB in getting rid of him, because they don't need an AHL goalie on a one way who will result in a cap hit, even if it is pretty small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Bonuses due to Cally. Insurance doesn’t cover bonuses, i don’t think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Maybe Tamps wants to use Condon for the 2021 expansion draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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