Phil Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Vesey - Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 :rofl: Pete Alonso Fan Account @will_borowski 6m6 minutes ago Replying to @DarrenDreger BY GOD THATS JEFF GORTONS MUSIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Vesey, Fast, or Namestnikov for Pajamas, straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 his stats aren't very good. does he suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 his stats aren't very good. does he suck? Well, he's 21 so it's too early to tell. What does suck is the way he's been handled by EDM. I think it's very possible he becomes a good player elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 his stats aren't very good. does he suck? Oilers treated him how Rangers fans treat their prospects. He needed more development, didnt get it. At times he looks lost, mostly hesitant, and not able to skate or play. He's been ineffective, and was moved down the lineup very quickly the first 2 seasons. Last year, he was checked out. He doesn't want to go to Bakersfield (AHL). He could benefit from a change of scenery, obviously. Still some potential, but he's not going to be a top line player. Maybe something clicks and he's a 2nd liner in a few years. He's young, big, decent speed, very good shot (struggles to find the scoring spots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 so we have no need for him. we have Buch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Interesting name to bring up, here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 so we have no need for him. we have Buch We don't need him, no. In fact I think he's a bad option. EDM fucked up but clearly he has some maturity issues. We already have a few reclamation projects. Don't need any more. Def don't need a negative Fin coming in with Kakko. As I said, he could turn out to be a good player but we don't need to risk that, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We don't need him, no. In fact I think he's a bad option. EDM fucked up but clearly he has some maturity issues. We already have a few reclamation projects. Don't need any more. Def don't need a negative Fin coming in with Kakko. As I said, he could turn out to be a good player but we don't need to risk that, IMO. I'd offer a different viewpoint. I think that's exactly the type of swing for upside the Rangers are in a position to take. Assuming the price is right, obviously. He's only 3 years out of the draft, at which point he was considered an absolutely elite talent. Yes, things have gone wrong for him at Edmonton and he doesn't project as an elite player any longer. But the talent is obviously there, and he has been part of an absolute shit show up there. In addition, even taking the situation out of the argument, prospects do develop in different ways. Some definitely need more time to grow up and put it all together. Look at Timo Meier, for instance. Picked at #9, struggled to get it together, yo-yoing between the AHL and the Sharks and then this year, boom. There was a bit of rumblings from the Sharks fan base and the word "bust" was used. I'm not saying Puljujarvi will have the same trajectory, but there is definite upside there if someone can unlock it. And if you can have him for someone like Vesey it's literally playing with house money imo. Almost no risk, and enormous upside if they get it right. I'd also trust the organization to deal with him if he becomes an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Reminds me of a Nino Neiderreiter situation. If you can get him for CHEAP, then do it. I'd certainly give them Lias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Reminds me of a Nino Neiderreiter situation. If you can get him for CHEAP, then do it. I'd certainly give them Lias. In Gorton talk, that translates to Puljujarvi + 3rd for Ronning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 In Gorton talk, that translates to Puljujarvi + 3rd for RonningHe's gotten one absolute robbery under his belt for the Rangers where the other team was shackled. Let's not act like it's habitual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He's gotten one absolute robbery under his belt for the Rangers where the other team was shackled. Let's not act like it's habitual. I fully expect him to get Puljujarvi for Connor Brickley and the 2020 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I fully expect him to get Puljujarvi for Connor Brickley and the 2020 7th.Maybe it'll be me who gets moved. Undersized with an arthritic hip and a problem with authority. Sounds perfect for Edmonton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phil Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 Reminds me of a Nino Neiderreiter situation. If you can get him for CHEAP, then do it. I'd certainly give them Lias. So would I, but I doubt it takes even that much. They can probably land him for Vesey alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 So would I, but I doubt it takes even that much. They can probably land him for Vesey alone. The very definition of a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Puljuj?rvi - Kakko - Vesalainen Make it happen. Frost Giant line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 What's with the " get rid of Vesey " mentality? Some people are never satisfied. Guy plays hard and contributes. Do the NYR want that? According to some, he's garbage. Unbelievable!! GO RANGERS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 Puljuj?rvi - Kakko - Vesalainen Make it happen. Frost Giant line. I mean, fucking yes, but how the hell did you get Vesalainen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Red flags all over the place on this kid. Stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I mean, fucking yes, but how the hell did you get Vesalainen? Doesn't seem to be happy in Winnipeg, leaving the AHL after 20 games and going back to Finland. Could be in a similar situation as Puljuj?rvi just not publicly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 He's gotten one absolute robbery under his belt for the Rangers where the other team was shackled. Let's not act like it's habitual. Nash Grabner Strome Fox Zibanejad Trouba Got a pick for McLeod Wait and see with the McDonagh and Stepan trades. And might also get a 1st out of Zuccarello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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