LeetchFan

you hate all.these moves?

It's not that I "hate" them -- it's just that what we get back can't really improve us that much.

If we were a horrible, 60 point team (full season) then yeah, the players and picks we get back bring us back to marginal playoff contention.

But do they make us a perennial playoff team...a Cup contender ? No way, IMO.

My problem with this isn't that we aren't getting "fair" value -- it's that the NHL is not the NFL. If we were stockpiling 1st-Round picks or 2nd Round or even 3rd Round picks, those have 90%/80%/70% success rates of being impact players within a year or two or three.

Not so in the NHL.

Unless we get super-lucky and hit on a late-1st, we're probably drafting 4th line and 3rd line players at best.

Unless we can package like 2 or 3 or 4 firsts and some seconds to someone in the Top 5 or Top 3 -- and I doubt the other team wants that.

Zuccarello gone...Hayes gone....Kreider not untouchable...the guys we traded last year.....:banghead:

I didn't know we had the 1980's Edmonton Oilers and 1990's Pittsburgh Penguins coming to us via the draft. And with late-1st Round or 2nd or later picks, too.

Hayes doesn't seem like the type that wants to live in Winnipeg. He seems more like a big city person. The Rangers might have just as good or better of a chance to resign him as anyone else, if that is what they want to do. And they might have told him that.