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    Every time Kreider does something great -- like score that goal the other night -- he gets some love, gets a boost in ratings and the "keep him" mantra ensues. Think about ALL of the other games where he's Casper Kreider and not Chris Kreider. I'm glad he's noticeably doing good things while other team scouts are watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4EverRangerFrank View Post
    Every time Kreider does something great -- like score that goal the other night -- he gets some love, gets a boost in ratings and the "keep him" mantra ensues. Think about ALL of the other games where he's Casper Kreider and not Chris Kreider. I'm glad he's noticeably doing good things while other team scouts are watching.
    Here here

    We just so happen to find ourselves in the midst of the typical Chris Kreider Hot Streak as we approach the trade deadline while he’s in the last few months of his deal.

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    To play devil's advocate, a well timed Chris Kreider hot streak could be the difference between winning a Cup or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    To play devil's advocate, a well timed Chris Kreider hot streak could be the difference between winning a Cup or not.
    For another team you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4EverRangerFrank View Post
    Every time Kreider does something great -- like score that goal the other night -- he gets some love, gets a boost in ratings and the "keep him" mantra ensues. Think about ALL of the other games where he's Casper Kreider and not Chris Kreider. I'm glad he's noticeably doing good things while other team scouts are watching.
    50pt player. Hard in the corners. A bull in front of the net. Big. Strong. etc.

    Does he go through periods where he doesn't score? Yes. All players do, besides Panarin. But don't confuse that with "being invisible." It's rare that he's not involved in the game.

    I've said all along that the Rangers should keep him. There's a reason EVERY team in the league would like to have Chris Kreider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    50pt player. Hard in the corners. A bull in front of the net. Big. Strong. etc.

    Does he go through periods where he doesn't score? Yes. All players do, besides Panarin. But don't confuse that with "being invisible." It's rare that he's not involved in the game.
    1,000% disagree. There are weeks that go by wherew he just glides around and you don't hear his name. At all. That's OK for a $4.25 million player. Not for a ~$7 million player.
    I've said all along that the Rangers should keep him. There's a reason EVERY team in the league would like to have Chris Kreider.
    At the appropriate tag, yes. He's about to be big time overpaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    50pt player. Hard in the corners. A bull in front of the net. Big. Strong. etc.

    Does he go through periods where he doesn't score? Yes. All players do, besides Panarin. But don't confuse that with "being invisible." It's rare that he's not involved in the game.

    I've said all along that the Rangers should keep him. There's a reason EVERY team in the league would like to have Chris Kreider.
    Would every team like him at $7 million per for a long time though?

    That’s the real question

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    @Rin7 - surely not EVERY team, but you only need 2 for an auction. I think there is enough demand in the market for CK to get a long deal at everything north of $6M/per and we should not be one of the bidders. At a team-friendly $4.75-5.15M I'd be inclined to jump back on the CK train...but he won't take that.
    Last edited by 4EverRangerFrank; 01-19-2020 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    Would every team like him at $7 million per for a long time though?

    That’s the real question
    Not even sure 7 per is enough anymore. Might be more like 7.5-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    For another team you mean?
    Heh no. He should still be at the same level in 2 years when the Rangers are hopefully threatening again. It's 5 or 6 years from now that's the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Not even sure 7 per is enough anymore. Might be more like 7.5-8.
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    Heh no. He should still be at the same level in 2 years when the Rangers are hopefully threatening again. It's 5 or 6 years from now that's the problem.
    Hard to see it getting that high.

    Ok
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    Misunderstood what you meant by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    Hard to see it getting that high.

    Ok
    Gotcha
    Misunderstood what you meant by that.
    Didn't think Hayes would get what he got either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Didn't think Hayes would get what he got either.
    Very fair dude

    There’s enough bad GM’s in the league where he might get that much of an overpayment

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    Hayes is a top 6 center, much harder to come by than a 50 point winger. CK gets 6mil/5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsm7302 View Post
    Hayes is a top 6 center, much harder to come by than a 50 point winger. CK gets 6mil/5 years.
    how the heck did the rangers get one(Strome) so easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty9 View Post
    how the heck did the rangers get one(Strome) so easily
    Really? Ryan Strome is having a career year and some here even dispute his ability as a top 6 center. We got lucky.

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    Hayes has played like a top 6 center exactly one year in his career, and that was last year. Is he playing like one this year? Seems he is underwhelming, aside from lighting the Rangers up that one game lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Hayes has played like a top 6 center exactly one year in his career, and that was last year. Is he playing like one this year? Seems he is underwhelming, aside from lighting the Rangers up that one game lol.
    Agreed. Just goes to show, teams are willing to invest in that one year simply because top 6 centers aren't easy to come by. Show me a 50 point winger that commanded 7mil after one good season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsm7302 View Post
    Hayes is a top 6 center, much harder to come by than a 50 point winger. CK gets 6mil/5 years.
    Hayes got way too much.


    But even at a different position and being younger, it only helps Kreider, and Hayes playing C isn’t going to stop Kreider’s agent from using it as a comparable

    In terms of actual production, their career points per game are identical, shooting percentage is close but favors CK, and Kreider scores more goals and has better possession numbers.

    It could come in under 7. But I think he’s in that ballpark

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsm7302 View Post
    Agreed. Just goes to show, teams are willing to invest in that one year simply because top 6 centers aren't easy to come by. Show me a 50 point winger that commanded 7mil after one good season.
    Hayes had 1 20-goal season and 1 50-point season
    With 4 more goals Kreider is looking at a 5th season of 20-goals or better. Already has 2 50-point seasons. A shot at a 3rd this year.

    All stuff his agent will use.
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