josh Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Panarin - Zibanejad - Kakko Buchnevich/Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov Lemieux - Andersson - ______ _____ - Howden - ________ Miller - Fox H?jek - DeAngelo Rykov - Lundkvist Reunanen - Lindgren Skjei 1.) not worried about the bottom 6. If any player projection doesn’t pan out, they can play a bottom 6 role. 2.) barring two drastic improvements, Buchnevich and Kreider can not Ben expected to Ben top line wingers on a competitive team moving forward. A 1-time 70-point center flanked by a 50- and 40-point winger doesn’t scream success. 3.) you have to pencil in Kakko or Kravtsov as a top line player. Andersson isn’t projecting to be one, and the Rangers can’t afford another top 10 (or the #2) to not meet expectations. And one should be a top 6 winger. 4.) The Hole. 2nd line ... wing? Time to see if Chytil can eventually be that #2 C. Try now, to determine the need to find a capable 2C for the foreseeable future. Chytil can shift to 2nd line wing. 5.) Panarin rounds out the top 6. He allows Kreider or Buchnevich a better spot on the second line. You can anticipate a line of Panarin - Zibanejad- Kakko to push PPG, reasonably. 2nd line being mid 50s - 70point guys . 3rd liners getting near 50. 6.) defense looks good. Still might be missing that true #1, but a great mix of skill, athleticism, scoring and physical Play. 7.) with the #20 pick, I’d still target a highly skilled forward. A replacement for kreider/Buchnevich can aid the offense, push Kreider/Buchnevich to third or move them for a defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Panarin - Zibanejad - Kakko Buchnevich/Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov Lemieux - Andersson - ______ _____ - Howden - ________ Miller - Fox H?jek - DeAngelo Rykov - Lundkvist Reunanen - Lindgren Skjei 1.) not worried about the bottom 6. If any player projection doesn’t pan out, they can play a bottom 6 role. 2.) barring two drastic improvements, Buchnevich and Kreider can not Ben expected to Ben top line wingers on a competitive team moving forward. A 1-time 70-point center flanked by a 50- and 40-point winger doesn’t scream success. 3.) you have to pencil in Kakko or Kravtsov as a top line player. Andersson isn’t projecting to be one, and the Rangers can’t afford another top 10 (or the #2) to not meet expectations. And one should be a top 6 winger. 4.) The Hole. 2nd line ... wing? Time to see if Chytil can eventually be that #2 C. Try now, to determine the need to find a capable 2C for the foreseeable future. Chytil can shift to 2nd line wing. 5.) Panarin rounds out the top 6. He allows Kreider or Buchnevich a better spot on the second line. You can anticipate a line of Panarin - Zibanejad- Kakko to push PPG, reasonably. 2nd line being mid 50s - 70point guys . 3rd liners getting near 50. 6.) defense looks good. Still might be missing that true #1, but a great mix of skill, athleticism, scoring and physical Play. 7.) with the #20 pick, I’d still target a highly skilled forward. A replacement for kreider/Buchnevich can aid the offense, push Kreider/Buchnevich to third or move them for a defender Miller is going back to school. Already been said. Skjei isn't a #7 D man. I know you hate him, but he's better than everyone you have in the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Chytil absolutely needs to go back to center. He got his feet wet last year. Now put him back where he’s supposed to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Panarin - Zibanejad - Kakko Buchnevich/Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov Lemieux - Andersson - ______ _____ - Howden - ________ Miller - Fox H?jek - DeAngelo Rykov - Lundkvist Reunanen - Lindgren Skjei 1.) not worried about the bottom 6. If any player projection doesn’t pan out, they can play a bottom 6 role. 2.) barring two drastic improvements, Buchnevich and Kreider can not Ben expected to Ben top line wingers on a competitive team moving forward. A 1-time 70-point center flanked by a 50- and 40-point winger doesn’t scream success. 3.) you have to pencil in Kakko or Kravtsov as a top line player. Andersson isn’t projecting to be one, and the Rangers can’t afford another top 10 (or the #2) to not meet expectations. And one should be a top 6 winger. 4.) The Hole. 2nd line ... wing? Time to see if Chytil can eventually be that #2 C. Try now, to determine the need to find a capable 2C for the foreseeable future. Chytil can shift to 2nd line wing. 5.) Panarin rounds out the top 6. He allows Kreider or Buchnevich a better spot on the second line. You can anticipate a line of Panarin - Zibanejad- Kakko to push PPG, reasonably. 2nd line being mid 50s - 70point guys . 3rd liners getting near 50. 6.) defense looks good. Still might be missing that true #1, but a great mix of skill, athleticism, scoring and physical Play. 7.) with the #20 pick, I’d still target a highly skilled forward. A replacement for kreider/Buchnevich can aid the offense, push Kreider/Buchnevich to third or move them for a defender I presume this is the vision 2-3 years from now and what the lineup may look like. A lot rides on those defensive prospects panning out. One thing I'll point out with regards to Buchnevich is that even though I was disappointed with his season as a whole last year given that I thought he was ready to explode into a top 6 forward, he did finish strong. I still think he has a lot more potential than the production we've seen from him thus far. I hope Quinn began to unlock that potential towards the end of last year. 22 points in his last 31 games. I think it's still a reasonable possibility we haven't seen Buch anywhere near his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I presume this is the vision 2-3 years from now and what the lineup may look like. A lot rides on those defensive prospects panning out. One thing I'll point out with regards to Buchnevich is that even though I was disappointed with his season as a whole last year given that I thought he was ready to explode into a top 6 forward, he did finish strong. I still think he has a lot more potential than the production we've seen from him thus far. I hope Quinn began to unlock that potential towards the end of last year. 22 points in his last 31 games. I think it's still a reasonable possibility we haven't seen Buch anywhere near his peak. I’ve been pushing for a 1 year contract for Buchnevich so he can prove just that. I’d rather him put up 50 points and pay him 5x5 next offseason than pay 4.5 now and he goes back to being a regular scratch/4th liner for 5 seasons. I’d love to see him be that guy, but my mind is wandering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I’ve been pushing for a 1 year contract for Buchnevich so he can prove just that. I’d rather him put up 50 points and pay him 5x5 next offseason than pay 4.5 now and he goes back to being a regular scratch/4th liner for 5 seasons. I’d love to see him be that guy, but my mind is wandering Absolutely. I don't want another Skjei contract where we hold our breath and hope he earns the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 The angst about Skjei's contract is quite overblown. He's got plenty of time to turn his game around, especially with Ruff gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Panarin to Florida. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 The angst about Skjei's contract is quite overblown. He's got plenty of time to turn his game around, especially with Ruff gone. It's not about that. He didn't earn the contract to begin with and he certainly hasn't shown to be worth it one year in. All of this points to the fact he could have been on a much cheaper bridge deal or you should have been able to lock him down for cheaper if he didn't want a bridge. They overpaid on that one in the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It's not about that. He didn't earn the contract to begin with and he certainly hasn't shown to be worth it one year in. All of this points to the fact he could have been on a much cheaper bridge deal or you should have been able to lock him down for cheaper if he didn't want a bridge. They overpaid on that one in the moment. OK, and it's one year in. You will not win every risk you take, it doesn't mean you stop gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It was a bad bet. That was obvious from the start. “1 season”. No, I’m 3 seasons, he’s had maybe a half of a good season... and like I said last summer, that was playing extremely sheltered 3rd pair minutes and matchups. And that’s fine, just not on that contract. I’m sure he’ll eventually play up to the contract... probably in its last season, and they’ll overpay again. Fucking deja vu Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It was a bad bet. That was obvious from the start. “1 season”. No, I’m 3 seasons, he’s had maybe a half of a good season... and like I said last summer, that was playing extremely sheltered 3rd pair minutes and matchups. And that’s fine, just not on that contract. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 It was a bad bet. That was obvious from the start. ?1 season?. No, I?m 3 seasons, he?s had maybe a half of a good season... and like I said last summer, that was playing extremely sheltered 3rd pair minutes and matchups. And that?s fine, just not on that contract. I?m sure he?ll eventually play up to the contract... probably in its last season, and they?ll overpay again. Fucking deja vu Rangers.Nah. Can't judge anyone on a team where Staal is the best defender. With Ruff gone it should be better. There are 9 guys playing defense on the team, and one looks competent. That's not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 If you are identifying one as the best defender, you’re judging. And I think a 3rd year guy could beat out an old, blind, 90-style defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Well Staal is the one haha. And that shows what an aberration it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Nah. Can't judge anyone on a team where Staal is the best defender. With Ruff gone it should be better. There are 9 guys playing defense on the team, and one looks competent. That's not a coincidence.What happened with Ruff. I didn't know he was gone. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I think it’s just assumed he’ll be fucked off at some point this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I think it?s just assumed he?ll be fucked off at some point this off season. I thought so too but If they still haven?t announced anything I?m starting to wonder. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The angst about Skjei's contract is quite overblown. He's got plenty of time to turn his game around, especially with Ruff gone. Pete, did Ruff get shit-canned??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 No, but here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I always questioned Ruff as a defensive coach...I mean, he wasn't really even a defenseman...he played it part time. He was certainly no Chris Chelios back there!! I wonder if the Rangers could get a guy like that who would coach back there. Sure as hell couldn't hurt having a dude like Chelios, Bourque or even a Kevin Lowe to teach these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm not at all enamored with having former "stars" coach. It almost never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm not at all enamored with having former "stars" coach. It almost never works. Same reason why Gretzky was a bad coach. He was just better than everyone when he played. He didn't survive by X's and O's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I always questioned Ruff as a defensive coach...I mean, he wasn't really even a defenseman...he played it part time. He was certainly no Chris Chelios back there!! I wonder if the Rangers could get a guy like that who would coach back there. Sure as hell couldn't hurt having a dude like Chelios, Bourque or even a Kevin Lowe to teach these kids. Oilers booted Paul Coffey yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 There are droves of quality young assistants out there they could bring in to coach the D. They went somewhat outside of the box when they hired Quinn, no reason they shouldn’t do the same with any assistant they might hire, instead of sticking to the NHL boys club of traditional old school guys and retreading some dinosaur. Hire a young up and comer that’s outside the established NHL circle of the same 100 or so “hockey guys.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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