Phil Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minute major for being taller than the other guy. But.. head contact, so I get it. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hockey. It happens. Not sure if the other guy was a bit taller that this would have been anything other than shoulder-on-shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hit was from blind side, predatory, already engaged with another player and no attempt to play puck... That hit was like 3 levels of dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hit was from blind side, Granted, his head was turned but the shoulder was square to the players chest predatory, Every open ice rocking hit can be classified such already engaged with another player Who? It wasn't like another guy was 'right there' and no attempt to play puck... We've seen these rock-em' hits forever now in hockey in open ice areas. Part of being a physical player That hit was like 3 levels of dirty. Pete, are you really saying this was that bad? Skater was beginning to hold up a bit just before the hit. The bad part was that he was looking the other way but the rest of his body was squared to the hit. I'm not a head-shot fan certainly, but this is more of an unfortunate hockey play result than bad intent IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Pete, are you really saying this was that bad? Skater was beginning to hold up a bit just before the hit. The bad part was that he was looking the other way but the rest of his body was squared to the hit. I'm not a head-shot fan certainly, but this is more of an unfortunate hockey play result than bad intent IMO.Nah. You can't make that hit. Especially in international play. It should be common sense at this point for a young player, rules have been in effect for long enough, if there's even a chance that you might make head contact or that you might be hitting somebody from the blind side, you would just have to hold up, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Honestly, if he lowered his* shoulder into the chest, it could have been worse. This hit is easily correctable, so I’m not worried about that. Rangers have needed a guy that makes opponents keep their heads up for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Pete, are you really saying this was that bad? Skater was beginning to hold up a bit just before the hit. The bad part was that he was looking the other way but the rest of his body was squared to the hit. I'm not a head-shot fan certainly, but this is more of an unfortunate hockey play result than bad intent IMO. It was a nasty hit. Deserving of suspension, as Pete outlined. The player not protecting himself, although stupid, doesn’t negate an infraction. Although I personally feel the same way about the hit, it’s still a penalty. And I don’t like that rule, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Pete, are you really saying this was that bad? Skater was beginning to hold up a bit just before the hit. The bad part was that he was looking the other way but the rest of his body was squared to the hit. I'm not a head-shot fan certainly, but this is more of an unfortunate hockey play result than bad intent IMO.Here's how you make that hit, clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Deserving of a suspension under n?-hockey, for sure. Not the heaviest of contact, but ill timed, and located. But, most of all, you love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Here's how you make that hit, clean. You have the opposing skater turn their head and body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 You have the opposing skater turn their head and body?Yes, let's blame the skater getting hit in the head by a player who knows you're not supposed to make head contact and who could have avoided it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 You have the opposing skater turn their head and body? It's that dumb blindside rule the NHL implemented years ago. As a skater, you know longer need to "keep your head up" to protect yourself. You can be looking at the puck, or looking behind you - NHL rules say you cant be hit, even if you are putting yourself in these vulnerable positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yes, let's blame the skater getting hit in the head by a player who knows you're not supposed to make head contact and who could have avoided it. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just distinguishing the example you brought up and articulating that the difference in it is that the opposing player maneuvers their body (pulls puck with stick, moving their body right to left, and their head) which allowed the acting hitter to deliver squarely to the shoulder. This is a clean hit and nobody is to blame, but I also don't think that it's a shining example of the hitter performing anything different from the schneider hit. The hitter in your example commits to the hit at the apex of the turn and cannot account for any body change. It could just as easily been a devastating hit to the head. It's always a risk, and in Schneider's case it was relatively unecessary given the opposition, but I don't know that the last second adjustment by the opposition makes or breaks the determination of "how you make a clean hit" is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just distinguishing the example you brought up and articulating that the difference in it is that the opposing player maneuvers their body (pulls puck with stick, moving their body right to left, and their head) which allowed the acting hitter to deliver squarely to the shoulder. This is a clean hit and nobody is to blame, but I also don't think that it's a shining example of the hitter performing anything different from the schneider hit. The hitter in your example commits to the hit at the apex of the turn and cannot account for any body change. It could just as easily been a devastating hit to the head. It's always a risk, and in Schneider's case it was relatively unecessary given the opposition, but I don't know that the last second adjustment by the opposition makes or breaks the determination of "how you make a clean hit" is all.Yeah, I don't agree at all. Schneider knew what he was doing and he didn't have to do it. That's why he's suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yeah, I don't agree at all. Schneider knew what he was doing and he didn't have to do it. That's why he's suspended. Not sure we are disagreeing, or what you're disagreeing with at least. My point is simply that the other hit wasn't a good example to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Not sure we are disagreeing, or what you're disagreeing with at least. My point is simply that the other hit wasn't a good example to the contrary. So you do know what we're disagreeing over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 So you do know what we're disagreeing over. Yes I'm aware of what I was originally disagreeing with you on. I thought that was fairly evident. I was referring to your reply, as quoted specifically. "Schneider knew what he was doing and he didn't have to do it. That's why he's suspended." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 @Pete - thanks for the effort of that 2nd hit link. Sure, no problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just scored for Canada Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Loving the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Outside of that bad hit in the first game he has looked really good this tournament. Quick to the puck, always a smart play either to pass or get it out. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The goal if anyone wants to see (don?t think you need an Instagram account to see it): https://www.instagram.com/p/CJpIeUqHpg7/?igshid=1lrqilzp0elu4 Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 None of the Canada D have had much to do in this tournament, but he has looked good tonight. Very good in the 1st, before the goal. Couple real smart, crisp passes, smart decisions at tbe O blue line, and physically controlling of the Russian forwards. Byram and Drysdale will get all tne attention but both Schneider and Guhle have been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 like Josh said,loving this pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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