Cuylle Is on Pace for 62 Points

[Valriera]

Fantastic rookie year, obviously playing well this year but he’s on pace for… ::checks notes:: 62 points???? All even strength.

Lets keep this quiet so we don’t have to pay him 8m too. I think we are a little past the “solid two way” player label here….

 

edit: it’s 70 points

Edited November 26 by Valriera

[Ozzy]

Kid's a beast!  Love him to death!

[Sharpshooter]

He might wind up being even better than I ever thought he was going to be. His improvement over last season is impressive. He's going to be a big favorite here for a long time.

[Pete]

He's the guy I tell my kid to watch during games. Feet always moving. Real puck hunter, always at the net. 

Edited November 19 by Pete

[siddious]

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

Hopefully CHytil comes back soon and that line can continue to cook

[Art20c]

Question is can he continue without Chytil. Remains to be seen. 

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, Art20c said:

Question is can he continue without Chytil. Remains to be seen. 

It's less about "without Chytil", more about "with Brodzinski". 

They need to decide ASAP if Chytil is done for the year, and if so—trade for a legit 3C, not Wennberg.

Edited November 19 by Pete

[RangersIn7]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

It's less about "without Chytil", more about "with Brodzinski". 

They need to decide ASAP if Chytil is done for the year, and if so—trade for a legit 3C, not Wennberg.

Bingo.

 

If it’s gonna be something like that, gotta go get someone. 

[Valriera]

He says he models his game after Tom Wilson who ::checks notes:: maxed out at 52 points. Will, I think the comparison you should be thinking about is Matthew Tkachuck at this point. Don’t sell yourself short. 
 

Obviously getting ahead of myself but the point is he’s playing very very far above the “solid all around player” label he probably has in his head right now so I hope he continues to be ambitious and grow and not be satisfied with that 

Edited November 19 by Valriera

[Ozzy]

W A N T E D :

[Phil]

And 26 goals. No power play.

 

My hope before this season was to sign him to an under-the-radar extension like the Avs did with Drew O'Connor. I think that opportunity is gone now.

 

Now I wonder if they can do something like 4.5 x 6?

[Pete]

59 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

W A N T E D :

[Pete]

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

And 26 goals. No power play.

 

My hope before this season was to sign him to an under-the-radar extension like the Avs did with Drew O'Connor. I think that opportunity is gone now.

 

Now I wonder if they can do something like 4.5 x 6?

He's an RFA with no arb rights. Normally I'd lowball him. But now with offer sheets, that $4.5 number is a killer.

[Ozzy]

Well now Chytil is good to go, so this is mch ado about....well,....not a lot 

[jsm7302]

Fox, Cuylle and Laf leading the team into the Perrault, Berard era. Gunna need to develop a center that isn't made of porcelain to accompany this crew. The future is bright on Broadway. Kudos to Mr. Drury this far.

[Art20c]

I haven’t seen Perrault play in men’s league yet and Berard was 5th round pick so who knows. Right now I would not put too much hope into both of them. I remember how folks here were raving about Othman who wasn’t very impressive in pre season. Basically it’s Fox, Laf and Cuylle. Maybe Igor. Not so much. To me future don’t look too bright. 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

He's an RFA with no arb rights. Normally I'd lowball him. But now with offer sheets, that $4.5 number is a killer.

 

Why is it a killer? And why would you want to low-ball him? I don't see any reason not to keep this player as long as you can.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

 

Why is it a killer? And why would you want to low-ball him? I don't see any reason not to keep this player as long as you can.

Because they don't have the cap room if they sign Shesty. Schneider is distinguishing himself, too.

 

They can always move Miller, but then you're taking a similar if not bigger number back.

[Long live the King]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

It's less about "without Chytil", more about "with Brodzinski". 

They need to decide ASAP if Chytil is done for the year, and if so—trade for a legit 3C, not Wennberg.

 

I was looking at options earlier.  Young guy, Juuso Parssinen.  Vet, Mikael Granlund.

Edited November 19 by Long live the King

[Phil]

43 minutes ago, Pete said:

Because they don't have the cap room if they sign Shesty. Schneider is distinguishing himself, too.

 

They can always move Miller, but then you're taking a similar if not bigger number back.

 

So, a few things:

 

1. Schneider isn't due a new deal for one more year. That's offset, so it's tomorrow's problem, and may not be one at all depending on how much more the cap rises both this season and next.

 

2. On that note, it's important to note that Friedman noted a day or two ago that it could rise as high as $97 million next season, up from the original $92.5 million estimate. That's an extra $9 million for all teams, if so. That same report indicated a cap of over $100 million for the following season (2026-27).

 

3. The RFAs this year are Kakko, Cuylle, Edstrom, Miller, Jones. The only guys on this list in line for a major pay upgrade in my estimation are Cuylle and Miller.

 

4. This, again, highlights what I've been saying for months re: Kakko, and why I have no interest in keeping a "non-needle-mover." Cuylle is the guy to invest in. Not Kakko. If that means dumping him to make more room, so be it. Back fill the Kakko role with someone internal on an ELC. Othmann or Berard or whomever.

[Pete]

19 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

So, a few things:

 

1. Schneider isn't due a new deal for one more year. That's offset, so it's tomorrow's problem, and may not be one at all depending on how much more the cap rises both this season and next.

 

2. On that note, it's important to note that Friedman noted a day or two ago that it could rise as high as $97 million next season, up from the original $92.5 million estimate. That's an extra $9 million for all teams, if so. That same report indicated a cap of over $100 million for the following season (2026-27).

 

3. The RFAs this year are Kakko, Cuylle, Edstrom, Miller, Jones. The only guys on this list in line for a major pay upgrade in my estimation are Cuylle and Miller.

 

4. This, again, highlights what I've been saying for months re: Kakko, and why I have no interest in keeping a "non-needle-mover." Cuylle is the guy to invest in. Not Kakko. If that means dumping him to make more room, so be it. Back fill the Kakko role with someone internal on an ELC. Othmann or Berard or whomever.

I thought Schneider was due. My bad. 

 

You need to get rid of your hard-on for Kakko. There's a really good chance he passes 50 points this season, again with very little power play time. I don't see any reason to move him since he's part of a line that's actually productive, and we've seen time again how players we think are replaceable simply aren't.

[Pete]

29 minutes ago, Long live the King said:

 

I was looking at options earlier.  Young guy, Juuso Parssinen.  Vet, Mikael Granlund.

I had Granlund on my radar too, But again at 32 years old it's cost of acquisition. I'm not selling significant futures for that guy. He's also tiny. 

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

I thought Schneider was due. My bad. 

 

You need to get rid of your hard-on for Kakko. There's a really good chance he passes 50 points this season, again with very little power play time. I don't see any reason to move him since he's part of a line that's actually productive, and we've seen time again how players we think are replaceable simply aren't.

 

It's not a hard-on for Kakko. It's basic math. We went through this exercise not too long ago. I feel like you're dealing in abstractions here by not account for the actual dollars. Under a $92.5 million cap, and with a $12 million goalie (I think we both agree this is a good general acceptance?), it becomes quite difficult to keep this team together without cutting out one or two players from that middle ground, and that's accounting for the loss of Trouba (trade). and Lindgren (UFA).

 

Put another way, I don't know how you field a competitive roster with $12M+ locked up between Cuylle, Chytil, and Kakko.

[Pete]

Just now, Phil said:

 

It's not a hard-on for Kakko. It's basic math. We went through this exercise not too long ago. I feel like you're dealing in abstractions here by not account for the actual dollars. Under a $92.5 million cap, and with a $12 million goalie (I think we both agree this is a good general acceptance?), it becomes quite difficult to keep this team together without cutting out one or two players from that middle ground, and that's accounting for the loss of Trouba (trade). and Lindgren (UFA).

 

Put another way, I don't know how you field a competitive roster with $12M+ locked up between Cuylle, Chytil, and Kakko.

They will need to figure something out, you can't get rid of your best five on five line lol. 

 

Frankly I'd rather move Kreider.