Albatrosss Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 I dont think players care about teams’ cap situations. They want to get paid what they’re worth and as much as possible or find another employer that will.
RangersIn7 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: I dont think players care about teams’ cap situations. They want to get paid what they’re worth and as much as possible or find another employer that will. And I have no issue with that… so long as the player doesn’t care where he plays or if he has viable shots at winning. 1
Albatrosss Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: And I have no issue with that… so long as the player doesn’t care where he plays or if he has viable shots at winning. It literally has nothing to do with us fans.
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 There’s no guarantee of winning it all no matter how good a team looks on paper so I would think players care most about getting paid what they think they are worth than about winning. That being said they aren’t going to sign with a team that has no shot either though
RangersIn7 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Albatrosss said: It literally has nothing to do with us fans. No. It doesn’t and the player has a right to operate in whatever way he sees fit based on his own preference and priorities.
Blueshirts1926 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 Sergachev just dealt to Utah, so they are making room for Stamkos
RichieNextel305 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) Says to me TB thinks they’re getting Guentzel. And that Stamkos is gone. If Trouba gets dealt: Any chance we get both him and Kane for the Zibanejad line with Kreider moving to the 3rd line? Hmmm. Edited June 29, 2024 by RichieNextel305
Pete Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 26 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Says to me TB thinks they’re getting Guentzel. And that Stamkos is gone. If Trouba gets dealt: Any chance we get both him and Kane for the Zibanejad line with Kreider moving to the 3rd line? Hmmm. I hope not. What problem does it solve?
RangersIn7 Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Pete said: I hope not. What problem does it solve? In the hypothetical world where this exists…. Stamkos-Zib-Kane Panarin-Chytil-LaFreniere Kreider-Trochek-???? With… Cuylle Vesey Rempe Edstrom Othmann Brodz Obviously they can shuffle the lines. Thats a good group
Pete Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 20 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: In the hypothetical world where this exists…. Stamkos-Zib-Kane Panarin-Chytil-LaFreniere Kreider-Trochek-???? With… Cuylle Vesey Rempe Edstrom Othmann Brodz Obviously they can shuffle the lines. Thats a good group It feels like the star fucking that went on during the dark years.
RangersIn7 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, Pete said: It feels like the star fucking that went on during the dark years. And I get that sentiment. But with those two… off point per game seasons, 5 Cups between them, and proven clutch, playoff scorers, it’s worth considering. Now I’ll say it’s not tantalizing. There’s appeal and enticement. There may be better options out there. But you don’t know if those options are attainable. Its intriguing.
RangersIn7 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, Pete said: It feels like the star fucking that went on during the dark years. Pat LaFontaine is my favorite player. Ever. Top-20 all-time in goals per game and points per game. On mostly shit teams. One of the most dynamic and explosive players ever. And his speed coupled with his skill was in the Bure/McDavid range. Thats how good he was. I was depressed when the Rangers signed him off of 5 concussions and major knee surgery. That’s not Kane and Stamkos.
RichieNextel305 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 I imagine it’s one of Stamkos or Kane. Not both.
lefty9 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 44 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: In the hypothetical world where this exists…. Stamkos-Zib-Kane Panarin-Chytil-LaFreniere Kreider-Trochek-???? With… Cuylle Vesey Rempe Edstrom Othmann Brodz Obviously they can shuffle the lines. Thats a good group Sorry man but this is a disaster
RangersIn7 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 14 minutes ago, lefty9 said: Sorry man but this is a disaster Why??? I know it’s not with the narrative of bigger and tougher. And I’m not pushing it. Not at all in fact. Its a purely hypothetical scenario that is super unlikely to come to pass. Its not happening. But it’s not a disaster.
Pete Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 36 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: Pat LaFontaine is my favorite player. Ever. Top-20 all-time in goals per game and points per game. On mostly shit teams. One of the most dynamic and explosive players ever. And his speed coupled with his skill was in the Bure/McDavid range. Thats how good he was. I was depressed when the Rangers signed him off of 5 concussions and major knee surgery. That’s not Kane and Stamkos. It's not LaFontaine but it could be Fluery and Stevens and Kamensky.
lefty9 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, RangersIn7 said: Why??? I know it’s not with the narrative of bigger and tougher. And I’m not pushing it. Not at all in fact. Its a purely hypothetical scenario that is super unlikely to come to pass. Its not happening. But it’s not a disaster Ok ,not a disaster Edited June 30, 2024 by lefty9
RangersIn7 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, lefty9 said: Ok ,not a disaster To your point though… it’s not 100% ideal. Perhaps not even that close to ideal. And who knows who is here and who is not and how the lines are aligned and deployed and what works and what doesn’t. But if you brought those 2 in… your skill level goes up. The amount of proven playoff guys who score in those situations goes up… and you have options that are hard to deal with. Florida took Kucherov away vs Tampa in the playoffs this year. As they should. He’s the man to watch there. But… They didn’t take away Stamkos. Impactful players are impactful players. Those 2 look like they’re still that.
Lord Al Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Don’t be surprised if they offer the captain C as part free agent pitch to #91 And the A to#88
Rangers1994 Posted June 30, 2024 Author Posted June 30, 2024 44 minutes ago, Lord Al said: Don’t be surprised if they offer the captain C as part free agent pitch to #91 And the A to#88 If Stamkos were to sign for $6-7 million per year, then that could work.
Rangers1994 Posted June 30, 2024 Author Posted June 30, 2024 Plus, the Rangers need room for Lindrgen and Schneider.
Br4d Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 21 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: I imagine it’s one of Stamkos or Kane. Not both. I don't think they're getting either of them on a 1 year deal and that's probably what Drury is looking for, like with all the lesser signings last year.
RichieNextel305 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Just now, Br4d said: I don't think they're getting either of them on a 1 year deal and that's probably what Drury is looking for, like with all the lesser signings last year. I don’t see him going to 4 years. But I do see him willing to go to 2.
Br4d Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t see him going to 4 years. But I do see him willing to go to 2. How do you sign the guys the Rangers need to sign next year if you give a big free agent 2 years on their deal?
Rangers1994 Posted June 30, 2024 Author Posted June 30, 2024 20 minutes ago, Br4d said: How do you sign the guys the Rangers need to sign next year if you give a big free agent 2 years on their deal? If Drury signs Lindgren and Schneider, those signings bring down the cap space to $6-$7M. And if you were to add Stamkos or Reinhart, then Drury would have trade somebody from the core group -- Trouba, Panarin, Shesterkin, etc.
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