Valriera Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Lafreniere and goodrow already made their cases this series. We just need Mika to play average hockey and we win this series
Keirik Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 4 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Don’t call for it too early ugh I think game 5 really is the biggest game for us this series. I want no part of going into game 6 as an elimination game against us
Valriera Posted May 31 Posted May 31 I’d like to see someone guarantee they won’t turn the puck over all game
RichieNextel305 Posted May 31 Posted May 31 I’m so sick of this 1994 narrative with every Conference Final. Because outside of 2014, we’ve been in this same situation and it’s painful.
Mistercosmic Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Trou-Trou-Trouba guarantees: "We'll be on the ice for game 6."
Br4d Posted May 31 Posted May 31 Assuming we don't get lucky and win this year it is probably time for a major change in the team dynamics. Giving Laf the Captaincy would be a good first step.
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted May 31 Posted May 31 9 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Ok who's going to guarantee a game 6 win ala Messier in 94? Mika just guaranteed he's going to try. 1
Pete Posted May 31 Posted May 31 43 minutes ago, Br4d said: Assuming we don't get lucky and win this year it is probably time for a major change in the team dynamics. Giving Laf the Captaincy would be a good first step. Trouba needs to go. 2
Jdog99 Posted May 31 Posted May 31 10 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Ok who's going to guarantee a game 6 win ala Messier in 94? Igor guarantees he'd take these guys in a one on one
RichieNextel305 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 I don’t know what magic Drury is going to have to pull, but Jacob Trouba cannot be back next year. What the fuck is he even trying to do here? The biggest liability in the organization. An albatross. They need to, NEED TO, figure out a way to get rid of him. I don’t care if it hurts us tomorrow cap wise. He is absolutely terrible. What would a buyout look like? 1
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 2 Posted June 2 He was trying to hit the player along the boards but even if he did it’s an interference penalty. As far as what he was thinking? He obviously wasn’t.
Phil Posted June 2 Posted June 2 17 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t know what magic Drury is going to have to pull, but Jacob Trouba cannot be back next year. What the fuck is he even trying to do here? The biggest liability in the organization. An albatross. They need to, NEED TO, figure out a way to get rid of him. I don’t care if it hurts us tomorrow cap wise. He is absolutely terrible. What would a buyout look like? https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jacob-trouba
RichieNextel305 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 I don’t know if that is an option. It needs to be though. You can’t play this guy. You just can’t. He’s a horror show. He can’t play. He’s either taking brain dead penalties or taking himself out of position every single shift. He cannot be on this team next year. He just cannot be here. I’m sorry.
Jdog99 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 49 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t know what magic Drury is going to have to pull, but Jacob Trouba cannot be back next year. What the fuck is he even trying to do here? The biggest liability in the organization. An albatross. They need to, NEED TO, figure out a way to get rid of him. I don’t care if it hurts us tomorrow cap wise. He is absolutely terrible. What would a buyout look like? its sounded like an exaggeration to say we could've gotten to the cup with zac jones....but is it really?
RichieNextel305 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 2 minutes ago, Jdog99 said: its sounded like an exaggeration to say we could've gotten to the cup with zac jones....but is it really? All I know is that he is the biggest issue on the roster and they need to fix it. He eats cap space, he kills us on the ice and we need that money to fix other holes. He is an utter disgrace. 1
LindG1000 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 39 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: All I know is that he is the biggest issue on the roster and they need to fix it. He eats cap space, he kills us on the ice and we need that money to fix other holes. He is an utter disgrace. He needs to be dealt to a team that likes the block-and-dump style. We want breakout passes - he can't do that. He's got a lot of good to offer the right team, including the intangibles and leadership stills, and I don't think we need to eat value on this deal either. Maybe retain 2m or something, max. But I agree that he can't play this system and his penalties and poor defense really hurt this team.
RichieNextel305 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, LindG1000 said: He needs to be dealt to a team that likes the block-and-dump style. We want breakout passes - he can't do that. He's got a lot of good to offer the right team, including the intangibles and leadership stills, and I don't think we need to eat value on this deal either. Maybe retain 2m or something, max. But I agree that he can't play this system and his penalties and poor defense really hurt this team. Yep. He can’t be here. This should be priority one, is finding a way to get this guy off the roster. We have a myriad of other issues and difficult decisions to make about members of this core. I don’t even include Trouba in that. He’s his own issue; his own individual issue. But there is just no way you can bring him back. This is approaching Wade Redden levels. You can’t keep a guy here and in a crucial role just based off salary. He doesn’t fit. Everything you said about his play is spot on. He was such a liability and will only continue to be one as he ages. This needs to be addressed literally now. First order of business IMO. His cap hit plus our room as is plus the cap going up gives us wiggle room for outside UFA’s and to re-sign Igor and Lafreniere to the deals they need.
Bugg Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Kinda scary; was a consideration at least to scratch the nominal team captain in an ECF and not because he was banged up.
siddious Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) $4kikncap hit for two years then $2mil cap penalty for 2years after that if you buy him out today. I do that in a heart beat since Mike milbury isn’t a gm anymore so likely no one will trade for him edit: stupid cap friendly didn’t load completely. I still do it fuck trouba Edited June 2 by siddious
Karan Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Watching the breakup day interviews, it's clear to me that there needs to be just 4 guys wearing a letter going into next season. 2 guys that demonstrate some semblance of tangible leadership qualities today. And 2 guys that are already demonstrating future Captain qualities. C - Trocheck A - Kreider A - Lafreniere A - Schneider
RichieNextel305 Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Karan said: Watching the breakup day interviews, it's clear to me that there needs to be just 4 guys wearing a letter going into next season. 2 guys that demonstrate some semblance of tangible leadership qualities today. And 2 guys that are already demonstrating future Captain qualities. C - Trocheck A - Kreider A - Lafreniere A - Schneider I agree. Listen, I know some may just say it’s a letter. But your captains need to have attitude and be the ones dragging you into the fight. Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider. They are our talent. But I don’t feel like they’re dragging me into the fight. At least not always. Kreider can sometimes. If Goodrow stays, he should keep his. But the rest of this leadership group doesn’t do it for me. When I watch guys like Zibanejad look so lost after losses, I mean, I don’t know. It doesn’t exude confidence. I know we’re not the ones in the locker room. But from the vantage point of many who follow this team, similar opinions are had. I agree. Watching guys like Trocheck, listening to them, I feel confident. That guy is a dog. Someone like Mika, someone like Kreider? It’s just not there, or it’s not there all the time. This isn’t the first time the leadership group has been called out. I doubt anything happens. But to me, it seems like it was a popularity contest. Edited June 5 by RichieNextel305
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