Phil Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Quote In the past three seasons, during which Lindgren carried a cap hit of $3 million per campaign, it’s become more apparent than ever just how vital the Minnesota native is to the flow of the Rangers’ game. Anybody who’s watched the Blueshirts, with and without Lindgren, can tell the difference. Quote Every player in the Rangers locker room — especially his longtime D partner Adam Fox — will tell you that it’s just not the same when Lindgren isn’t on the ice. That alone is cause for prioritizing re-signing Lindgren either this season or early next summer. Lindgren said it doesn’t matter to him if negotiations begin now or later. Quote “First off, he’s a great guy and you look up to him in the locker room,” Braden Schneider said of Lindgren. “I think, with him, he is always ready to go. You know he’s putting everything that he has, every game, every practice and it’s easy to follow a guy like that because you know he’s here to work. You know he’s here to win. I think it just passes through every guy. He’s an awesome teammate and I’m glad we have him.” https://nypost.com/2023/09/25/ryan-lindgrens-importance-to-rangers-unquestioned-in-contract-year/ 2
Albatrosss Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: He should have a letter “N” for not a pussy 1
RichieNextel305 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) I really hope the cap goes up a decent amount next summer. With the way salaries are going, working in a flat cap era is nearly impossible. It’s almost impossible to tinker with a roster every year, keep your glue guys and pay your stars. I’m being honest when I say that while no one is perfect, I don’t necessarily look at our roster and see countless bad contracts like we did when Rozsival and Redden were still around. Sure, Trouba may be a little overpaid, but it’s not robbery. My point is that I think we have done fairly well managing the cap and we still may find ourselves in hot water next summer. Something has to give. I know this isn’t a thread about the cap and the logistics of the cap, so I’ll revert back to the point of this thread. How important is Lindgren? He’s vital. He’s a guy you win with and I would hate to lose a key piece like him because of cap issues, like we did with other key pieces like Hagelin back in yesteryear. Hagelin is a winning type player, and so is Lindgren. I hope it works out. Edited September 26, 2023 by RichieNextel305
Pete Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) It's just impossible to be a competitive team and operate with cap space. Every competitive team is up against the cap every year. Some Ranger fans just like to shit all over the Rangers for mismanaging the cap, but the players who are getting paid are worth their paycheck. You you want to pay Panarin and Trouba that much? In an ideal world, no. One player you had to buy in free agency because you were never going to get that talent level through the draft, and the other player Gorton decided not to use all his leverage on. But the fact is they don't have anyone to replace those two players right now, and they're probably not a playoff team without them. Edited September 26, 2023 by Pete 2 1
jsm7302 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pete said: It's just impossible to be a competitive team and operate with cap space. Every competitive team is up against the cap every year. Some Ranger fans just like to shit all over the Rangers for mismanaging the cap, but the players who are getting paid are worth their paycheck. You you want to pay Panarin and Trouba that much? In an ideal world, no. One player you had to buy in free agency because you were never going to get that talent level through the draft, and the other player Gorton decided not to use all his leverage on. But the fact is they don't have anyone to replace those two players right now, and they're probably not a playoff team without them. Again.....it comes down to....we missed on a #1OA and Our #2OA is also not up to snuff. We had all of the pieces in place. If those two hit, no one cares about what Trouba or Panarin make. At the end of the day, we got lucky with Fox and Miller thankfully. Lindgren will get paid. Drury isn't an idiot and if someone has to go to make it happen, we will see someone dealt. The top 4 defense of this team is it's life blood. They show up more often than not. Fox Miller and Lindgren could wear letters.
RJWantsTheCup Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 If Kakko & Donut Hole lived up to expectations the Rangers would be in an even worse cap situation. 1
siddious Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 I’ve been saying for years he’s our most important defensive defenseman. Even fox doesn’t look as good without him. in an ideal world he makes 4mil but I have a feeling he’s going to ask for 5-6 when he’s up for free agency. But who knows. 1
Sharpshooter Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 It's a contract year, so we know he'll at least be very good, maybe even better than usual. They'll get something done. I think the cap is going to be going up a good amount this offseason and next season, and Drury knows his importance. Remember how they looked last year when he was out for an extended period of time? Woof. 1
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, siddious said: I’ve been saying for years he’s our most important defensive defenseman. Even fox doesn’t look as good without him. in an ideal world he makes 4mil but I have a feeling he’s going to ask for 5-6 when he’s up for free agency. But who knows. To me the the term is almost more important than the cap hit. Defenseman who play his type of game tend to breakdown around 28-30 years old badly(see Girardi and Staal) and lose that step that makes them great. Would much rather see a 6 million X 4 years as an overpay, than a 6 years X 4 million or a 5 years X 5 million.
siddious Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, MuddyInTheMiddle said: To me the the term is almost more important than the cap hit. Defenseman who play his type of game tend to breakdown around 28-30 years old badly(see Girardi and Staal) and lose that step that makes them great. Would much rather see a 6 million X 4 years as an overpay, than a 6 years X 4 million or a 5 years X 5 million. Make everyone happy 5 years at 3.5. Done deal I’ll have my people call your people 1
Pete Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I'm sensing a $5.5 X 5 year deal.... Too long at that AAV. I'd go $4.25 x 6. Take him to 32 and then see if he'll come back cheap as a 3LD. I think if there's anyone on the team who loves being a Ranger, it's him, and if there's anybody who knows how good they have it playing with Fox, it's him. I don't think he's looking to break the bank and go somewhere else.
Ozzy Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, Pete said: Too long at that AAV. I'd go $4.25 x 6. Take him to 32 and then see if he'll come back cheap as a 3LD. I think if there's anyone on the team who loves being a Ranger, it's him, and if there's anybody who knows how good they have it playing with Fox, it's him. I don't think he's looking to break the bank and go somewhere else. I'd go for 4.25 in a flash... I'd dig that even better!
BrooksBurner Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: I'm sensing a $5.5 X 5 year deal.... This sounds right to me. That also takes him through the rest of Fox's contract. If filling out the roster holes with ELC players, which I think is plausible with Othmann, Cuylle, Sykora, etc, the Rangers would have in the vicinity of 5.5M to re-sign both Kakko and Schneider. That's going to be tough to manage. 1
The Dude Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pete said: Too long at that AAV. I'd go $4.25 x 6. Take him to 32 and then see if he'll come back cheap as a 3LD. I think if there's anyone on the team who loves being a Ranger, it's him, and if there's anybody who knows how good they have it playing with Fox, it's him. I don't think he's looking to break the bank and go somewhere else. That's around what I think he's going to get. Maybe even just 5 years. In line with what you said, I think he knows how good he has it here. Probably not all about the money. Edited September 26, 2023 by The Dude 1
Blue Heaven Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 So it only took 1 game for Lindgren to get hurt and miss a game?
Albatrosss Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: So it only took 1 game for Lindgren to get hurt and miss a game? And for the Rangers subsequently lose that game
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 47-52-17 without Lindgren and 149-82-27 when he does play. 1 2
siddious Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: 47-52-17 without Lindgren and 149-82-27 when he does play. So you’re saying 7mil/7 years?
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, siddious said: So you’re saying 7mil/7 years? I don’t think he’ll ask for that much, but they have to entertain whatever is asking price is.
siddious Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I don’t think he’ll ask for that much, but they have to entertain whatever is asking price is. I was Jk lol 1
Pete Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Blue Heaven said: So it only took 1 game for Lindgren to get hurt and miss a game? This coaching staff seems very cautious with injuries.
RangersIn7 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Blue Heaven said: So it only took 1 game for Lindgren to get hurt and miss a game? It’s October. They are 2 games in. And they’re playing a shit Columbus team. So yeah… give him a rest.
Albatrosss Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 54 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: It’s October. They are 2 games in. And they’re playing a shit Columbus team. So yeah… give him a rest. And lose a game
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