RichieNextel305 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 It’s an exercept from the Athletic, which I don’t have. But some quotes are in that article. Similar situation to Kane. Big name UFA-to-be. More of a shooter than Kane. Having a weird season. Has had injury issues in the past. But still could be a gigantic addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Here's a thought: if Drury is going to go for it, just go get both. Panarin - Zibanejad - Kane Kids Kreider - Tro - Tarasenko Vesey - Goodrow - Blais/Gauthier Shoot your shot, kid. 2nd/3rd/Robertson for Tarasenko 1st/Krav for Kane What other team could shoot their shot like that and still have a 1st round pick in this year's draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Can't see a scenario where they can fit Kane & Tarasenko under the cap, but if Drury figures a way to do it why the hell not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Here's a thought: if Drury is going to go for it, just go get both. Panarin - Zibanejad - Kane Kids Kreider - Tro - Tarasenko Vesey - Goodrow - Blais/Gauthier Shoot your shot, kid. 2nd/3rd/Robertson for Tarasenko 1st/Krav for Kane What other team could shoot their shot like that and still have a 1st round pick in this year's draft? I may get a smidge roasted for this, but I think Robertson might be extremely difficult for Drury to move right now. Not because he's an exceptional prospect, and not because other teams won't ask. I'm thinking that a steady, big body LD who could make the jump and give us 15 minutes of low-event hockey every night at league minimum next season feels like a piece of the puzzle for figuring out next year's cap labyrinth. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: I may get a smidge roasted for this, but I think Robertson might be extremely difficult for Drury to move right now. Not because he's an exceptional prospect, and not because other teams won't ask. I'm thinking that a steady, big body LD who could make the jump and give us 15 minutes of low-event hockey every night at league minimum next season feels like a piece of the puzzle for figuring out next year's cap labyrinth. If we move Lindgren to free up roughly $2M in cap space (because replacement will cost $1M), he's probably one of the guys competing for that spot. Neither Jones and Hajek have shown they can beat out Harpur for the 3rd pair, and he plays 12 minutes a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: I may get a smidge roasted for this, but I think Robertson might be extremely difficult for Drury to move right now. Not because he's an exceptional prospect, and not because other teams won't ask. I'm thinking that a steady, big body LD who could make the jump and give us 15 minutes of low-event hockey every night at league minimum next season feels like a piece of the puzzle for figuring out next year's cap labyrinth. Zac Jones then. They would need to dump Blais and get some LTIR help to make this all work. They are just a hair short cap wise. Per CF's trade machine: In: Kane @ 50%, Tarasenko @ 50% Out : Kravtsov, Blais, Jones, picks Moved to minors: Cuylle Initial Effective Cap Space: +1.234M Change Cap Space: -1.31 Final: -75k So close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Here's a thought: if Drury is going to go for it, just go get both. Panarin - Zibanejad - Kane Kids Kreider - Tro - Tarasenko Vesey - Goodrow - Blais/Gauthier Shoot your shot, kid. 2nd/3rd/Robertson for Tarasenko 1st/Krav for Kane What other team could shoot their shot like that and still have a 1st round pick in this year's draft? Is there a way to get both and be cap compliant the remainder of the season? Obviously would take a lot of maneuvering but is it at all possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Zac Jones then. They would need to dump Blais and get some LTIR help to make this all work. They are just a hair short cap wise. Per CF's trade machine: In: Kane @ 50%, Tarasenko @ 50% Out : Kravtsov, Blais, Jones, picks Moved to minors: Cuylle Initial Effective Cap Space: +1.234M Change Cap Space: -1.31 Final: -75k So close. Actually, if they sent Cuylle down now as opposed to at the deadline like I had in the CF trade calculator, they would save enough accrued cap space to account for the 75k. The extra body on the roster is going to start eating away at available cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Is there a way to get both and be cap compliant the remainder of the season? Obviously would take a lot of maneuvering but is it at all possible? Yes. Actually it can be done and I'm surprised. TODAY: Send Cuylle down, saves $282k against the Cap. Gives the Rangers $1.516M effective cap space at the deadline. March 3rd: In: Kane @ 50% ($1.192M hit), Tarasenko @ 50% (.851M hit) - total in: 2.043 Out: Blais (.346M hit), Kravtsov (.199M hit), Jones (0, minors), picks - total out: .545 Net Cap: +1.498 (.018 under cap space) But the Rangers have to send Cuylle down, or start dumping bodies like Blais in a trade for picks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 That would certainly be one way of going about really going for it. So basically, our 4th line in that scenario would be Vesey-Leschysyn-Goodrow? I wish there would be a way to do all of that and bring in a low cost 3rd pair guy like we did with Braun last deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: That would certainly be one way of going about really going for it. So basically, our 4th line in that scenario would be Vesey-Leschysyn-Goodrow? I wish there would be a way to do all of that and bring in a low cost 3rd pair guy like we did with Braun last deadline. I’d rather see Vesey-Goodrow-Gauthier, which I think has the makings of a very good 4th line. Vesey and Goodrow are really good 4th line players currently asked to be in the top 9. Braun is really cheap. Not that much more against cap than Hajek, so they could just bring Braun back and dump Hajek. Edited February 9, 2023 by BrooksBurner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Totally forgot Gauthier for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I’m not so sure that it works with both Kane and Tarasenko. Too many chefs in the kitchen and all that. I’d just stick to one, preferably Tarasenko . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: Here's a thought: if Drury is going to go for it, just go get both. Panarin - Zibanejad - Kane Kids Kreider - Tro - Tarasenko Vesey - Goodrow - Blais/Gauthier Shoot your shot, kid. 2nd/3rd/Robertson for Tarasenko 1st/Krav for Kane What other team could shoot their shot like that and still have a 1st round pick in this year's draft? Show me the math, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cash or Czech said: If we move Lindgren to free up roughly $2M in cap space (because replacement will cost $1M), he's probably one of the guys competing for that spot. Neither Jones and Hajek have shown they can beat out Harpur for the 3rd pair, and he plays 12 minutes a night. Lindgren looks like a potentially necessary move to free up some cap space however that's in a scenario where you are doing it to sign Chytil and K'Andre and Lafreniere while unable to move any of the vets due to NMC. Doing it to extend a rental into a real deal ignores the fact that the Rangers have pressing cap issues elsewhere. This in the context that Lindgren is both young and affordable and is likely a top 10 player on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Br4d said: Lindgren looks like a potentially necessary move to free up some cap space however that's in a scenario where you are doing it to sign Chytil and K'Andre and Lafreniere while unable to move any of the vets due to NMC. Doing it to extend a rental into a real deal ignores the fact that the Rangers have pressing cap issues elsewhere. This in the context that Lindgren is both young and affordable and is likely a top 10 player on this roster. We've done the math in other threads. You don't need to move Lindgren to sign Chytil, Laf, and Miller. Only if you're adding another significant piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Cash or Czech said: We've done the math in other threads. You don't need to move Lindgren to sign Chytil, Laf, and Miller. Only if you're adding another significant piece. It's hard to imagine an addition being more significant than Lindgren. The Rangers would need to add a top line RW that opens up both Panarin and Zibanejad to get into that ballpark and even then it's gotta be a guy who is a driver on that line not an efficient passenger. Kane is having a down season with injury concerns. Tarasenko is having a down season. I don't think either of them is worth giving up Lindgren this year or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Br4d said: It's hard to imagine an addition being more significant than Lindgren. The Rangers would need to add a top line RW that opens up both Panarin and Zibanejad to get into that ballpark and even then it's gotta be a guy who is a driver on that line not an efficient passenger. Kane is having a down season with injury concerns. Tarasenko is having a down season. I don't think either of them is worth giving up Lindgren this year or next. Potential for either to come here and play top line with these linemates would reinvigorate anyone's career. Pat Kane has proven chemistry with Bread. I'd lean towards Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Step 1 complete. Cuylle sent to AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Isn't Tarasenko tight with Panarin as well?? I thought I read that someplace.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Isn't Tarasenko tight with Panarin as well?? I thought I read that someplace.... https://theathletic.com/4158803/2023/02/08/vladimir-tarasenko-rangers-trade-breakdown/ Quote And they’ve got one of his best friends, Artemi Panarin, on their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 The Athletic article is a joint venture between Rutherford (STL writer) and Staple. They specifically cover cost, and I think that's the key factor here. Tarasenko is having a down year, so the thought is he can probably be had for not even a first-round pick, but like a second and a prospect. I pay that all day long to add and hope the change of scenery wakes him up. I definitely do it over Kane, too, who himself could maybe be had at a discounted price, but everyone knows is playing hurt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rangers Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I would just go for Tarasenko, and Depth players, in case someone gets injured. No point of having both Kane and Tar. 1997-2000 Rangers all star team didnt do shit for us, no need to repeat the history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) #NYR currently have $1,521,427 in cap space which is equivalent to $4,397,875 in current cap space today. This would suggest that the Blues are either retaining salary on Tarasenko, or another player off the Rangers active roster is part of the deal. https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1623753904663015425?s=20&t=MXJlvOCVMQkmCkHK6tZINg Edited February 9, 2023 by 4EverRangerFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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