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James Dolans Threatens to Halt Sales of Alcohol at Rangers Game


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6 hours ago, Keirik said:

I didn't say thats all that bothers me, but as I'm walking with my pregnant wife and we both are ingesting puffs of smoke with every breath, it was pretty disturbing considering she's with child. 

As I said, normally I dont care what people do. We all have our thing. I just eish we didn't have to unvoluntsrily partake in it lol 

I was inferring to the other disgusting behavior in the area. Relax. There's typically people shooting up, leaving dirty syringes, and then there's the bodily fluids and human waste scattered on the ground. 

 

Was joking in thinking there were worse things you should have come in contact with. The area is a cesspool. 

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23 hours ago, Keirik said:

Speaking of that.

  I don’t care what anyone else does. I’m no one to judge. However, a month ago my very pregnant wife and I were on the city to see Seinfeld. After the show on a Sat night we took a walk through Times Square and the amount of just open smoking of weed was just unbearable. It was nearly impossible to breathe.  Outside of going straight into MSG, I haven’t been to NYC for a while. I was pretty shocked to be honest.

I went out with my kids few months ago, same thing happened, had to go thru a cloud. My 7 year old asked what that smell was? I had to explain to them what it was, and that every time they smell it, they should leave that place. They are 7 and 5 now, but high school is not far off, got to teach them now.

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Facial recognition does have a legitimate use for a business like MSG. My son and some pals went to the BIg East tournament Thursday night. One of his friends gets pulled aside at entry, and 2 security guards say, hey, "J___", remember to behave yourself and show him a photo of a night he was tossed for being a bit too intox at a Rangers game 2 years ago. It was more lighthearted than heavy, even showing the drunk photo to all his pals for a laugh. But it made the point to behave or else. 

 

Can't imagine the vendors selling MSG beer and liquor are happy about this and probably are trying to get this resolved. Seems ridiculous. One woman found herself refused entry for the Radio City Christmas show with her kids simply because she worked as a secretary at one of the firms in question. That does seem very  heavy handed.

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I used to never, ever, miss home games. I’ve met many of you at games either once or a few times. I had tickets with my dad when I was a kid. Once he stopped going, my friend bought his ticket. And for a few years it was me and him. And eventually once my friend was having his kids, my now-wife bought his ticket and it was us for a little while. Once the prices got jacked up, I eventually moved on. It just wasn’t worth it anymore. The experience wasn’t the same as it was. A lot of the people from my old section stopped going. It lost its luster. I still go when I can. I still have family that has tickets so I get offered tickets a lot. I don’t work far from MSG so sometimes it’s a last second thing. I pass it up more times than not.

 

I have to say that the building is absolutely terrible now. The worst is the confrontational security who are constantly looking to ruin anyone’s evening. You see it all the time; walking around, looking to bust people for nonsense. I get it if it’s a drunk asshole. But I mean, come on.

 

It’s refreshing going to road buildings and not have to feel like security is either stalking you or anyone else, and aren’t ultra confrontational.

 

MSG used to be a great place to see games. But between the absurd prices, the treatment from security, and now potential lack of alcohol? When is enough enough?

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5 hours ago, Bugg said:

Facial recognition does have a legitimate use for a business like MSG. My son and some pals went to the BIg East tournament Thursday night. One of his friends gets pulled aside at entry, and 2 security guards say, hey, "J___", remember to behave yourself and show him a photo of a night he was tossed for being a bit too intox at a Rangers game 2 years ago. It was more lighthearted than heavy, even showing the drunk photo to all his pals for a laugh. But it made the point to behave or else. 

So now if you get a little too drunk once you're gonna have security harass you every time you're going to a game? This security guard sounded cool, but I don't think that goes for the majority of them.

 

This sounds like a dystopian nightmare lol.

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3 hours ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said:

So now if you get a little too drunk once you're gonna have security harass you every time you're going to a game? This security guard sounded cool, but I don't think that goes for the majority of them.

 

This sounds like a dystopian nightmare lol.

You aren't kidding. It isn't just there though. The fact that videos are everywhere from public stores to people's doorbells. Life is recorded at all times. Creepy really.

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2 hours ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said:

So now if you get a little too drunk once you're gonna have security harass you every time you're going to a game? This security guard sounded cool, but I don't think that goes for the majority of them.

 

This sounds like a dystopian nightmare lol.

It only "sounds like dystopian nightmare", because it is a dystopian nightmare. You practically cannot turn a corner in Manhattan without facing surveillance camera. Then there are all of the private entities, like MSG, that have their own surveillance cameras. Connecting these cameras to facial recognition systems in real-time awhile ego had been the next step. Since storage is cheap, most of the recording is retained indefinitely. 

 

Most of the large cities in the US are like NYC. Even small towns where I live, one of the "bedroom town of NYC", has surveillance cameras all over. Awhile ego, we had an accident in one of the intersection late at night, that hit some people crossing the road. People were flying across the divider and the car had been disabled. Of course the accident had been recorded, but not just that. The car in itself called 911, reported the accident that included Geo-location, make/model of the car, etc. On the other hand, the accident prevention system did not even apply the brakes until after the accident...

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8 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said:

I used to never, ever, miss home games. I’ve met many of you at games either once or a few times. I had tickets with my dad when I was a kid. Once he stopped going, my friend bought his ticket. And for a few years it was me and him. And eventually once my friend was having his kids, my now-wife bought his ticket and it was us for a little while. Once the prices got jacked up, I eventually moved on. It just wasn’t worth it anymore. The experience wasn’t the same as it was. A lot of the people from my old section stopped going. It lost its luster. I still go when I can. I still have family that has tickets so I get offered tickets a lot. I don’t work far from MSG so sometimes it’s a last second thing. I pass it up more times than not.

 

I have to say that the building is absolutely terrible now. The worst is the confrontational security who are constantly looking to ruin anyone’s evening. You see it all the time; walking around, looking to bust people for nonsense. I get it if it’s a drunk asshole. But I mean, come on.

 

It’s refreshing going to road buildings and not have to feel like security is either stalking you or anyone else, and aren’t ultra confrontational.

 

MSG used to be a great place to see games. But between the absurd prices, the treatment from security, and now potential lack of alcohol? When is enough enough?

Definitely not my experiences at the Garden.  Security seems pretty chill unless things get out of hand.  Can't tell you the last time I saw security enter the seating area in my surrounding sections, or escorting someone out while hanging on the concourse during intermission.  For the most part the ushers do a good job keeping people at bay when the play is going on, and security arent there to bust someone for nonsense.  

 

Now your other points, yep, MSG is not what its like from the 80s to the renovations. The renovations + ticket prices lost the luster of the worlds most famous arena.

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4 hours ago, Blue Heaven said:

Definitely not my experiences at the Garden.  Security seems pretty chill unless things get out of hand.  Can't tell you the last time I saw security enter the seating area in my surrounding sections, or escorting someone out while hanging on the concourse during intermission.  For the most part the ushers do a good job keeping people at bay when the play is going on, and security arent there to bust someone for nonsense.  

 

Now your other points, yep, MSG is not what its like from the 80s to the renovations. The renovations + ticket prices lost the luster of the worlds most famous arena.

Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. I’ve had friends tell me that security guards have followed them into bathrooms, empty bathrooms, to let them know that they went in through an exit. And that the next time it happens, they will be thrown out.

 

Leaving the building recently, some guy was waiting for his pregnant wife to get back from the bathroom. He was holding her phone for her. Security was trying to usher people out, fine. But the guy explained that he had his wife’s phone, she had gone to pee and he was just waiting for her to get back before leaving. Nope. Not good enough, per security. Keep it moving. It’s like bro, if I leave, my wife will not know where I am, I have her phone so I can’t get in touch with her, she had to pee, she’s pregnant, not a lot you can do there. There is better shit to be done on a Thursday night then sit inside MSG any longer than you have to after the event has ended. Yet somehow, the security still manages to make this an enormous issue.

 

The security inside that building is beyond terrible.

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5 hours ago, Blue Heaven said:

Definitely not my experiences at the Garden.  Security seems pretty chill unless things get out of hand.  Can't tell you the last time I saw security enter the seating area in my surrounding sections, or escorting someone out while hanging on the concourse during intermission.  For the most part the ushers do a good job keeping people at bay when the play is going on, and security arent there to bust someone for nonsense.  

 

Same here, I don't see it, not saying it doesn't happen, I can say it hasn't ever happened around me or my family who has had tickets going back from the early nineties until a few years ago when corp partners made them available often enough that having our own made no sense. 

 

Now for the rest of life being recorded and just taking Dolan out of the picture because he's a jackass. I think it's a bigger reflection on how shitty society is today and the necessity to try and protect yourself and your property in most cases. I fall into the if you have nothing to hide who gives a shit? But if I'm driving with my family through a green light and a drunk driver blasts through the intersection and hits me and keeps going I'm praying there's cameras everywhere. Same if I'm a store owner. A homeowner who's shit gets taken from their porch all the time etc. No for the record I don't have a single camera outside my house but if I felt I needed one I damn sure would.

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29 minutes ago, jsrangers said:

Same here, I don't see it, not saying it doesn't happen, I can say it hasn't ever happened around me or my family who has had tickets going back from the early nineties until a few years ago when corp partners made them available often enough that having our own made no sense. 

 

Now for the rest of life being recorded and just taking Dolan out of the picture because he's a jackass. I think it's a bigger reflection on how shitty society is today and the necessity to try and protect yourself and your property in most cases. I fall into the if you have nothing to hide who gives a shit? But if I'm driving with my family through a green light and a drunk driver blasts through the intersection and hits me and keeps going I'm praying there's cameras everywhere. Same if I'm a store owner. A homeowner who's shit gets taken from their porch all the time etc. No for the record I don't have a single camera outside my house but if I felt I needed one I damn sure would.

The package tracking stuff is a false sense of security. Security companies capitalize on that from a marketing perspective. Guy across the street from me had video of a guy going into his car, cops were like "Thanks". They don't do anything with it.

 

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34 minutes ago, Pete said:

The package tracking stuff is a false sense of security. Security companies capitalize on that from a marketing perspective. Guy across the street from me had video of a guy going into his car, cops were like "Thanks". They don't do anything with it.

 

Sure it can be.  It can also be a deterrent and having several family members in LE they have talked about how they've used it several times to catch clowns within their areas to identify and go after people stealing shit. If a cop is not going to be interested in gathering info (if it's useful as in clear video etc) there's not much you can do. I agree it's a marketing bonanza in today's world with this stuff and much of it is crap. However some or it is pretty damn good, and the high end stuff is amazing. The example pointed out earlier, the facial recognition AI capabilities of pulling a guy aside because he acted like a clown in MSG at a college game and calling  him out by name and telling him to do better the next time he showed up is crazy. 

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