Phil Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Quote I was told that Timo Meier of the San Jose Sharks has risen to the very top of the list as a potential trade target and fit for the Rangers. You look at the season that Meier is having with the Sharks, it’s not just Erik Karlsson who is having a career year. It’s Timo Meier with 25 goals wrapped up already to this point in 45 games. He’s got 45 points, he’s someone that would add a little bit of heft I think to their top-six. And if you can plug him in, whether it’s on the line with Artemi Panarin, whether it’s in another spot with Mika Zibanejad, there’s certainly a place and a spot for Timo Meier. I think the one complication, I’m told with Patrick Kane even with a team like New York potentially interested, is that I don’t think he wants to go anywhere for a three-month run. I think if he’s going to move, he wants to have a long-term contract extension in place. And that’s sort of where things get complicated for the Rangers as you do the math with someone like Meier. He has a $10 million qualifying offer that’s due to him at the end of this season. I don’t think anyone thinks right at this moment, even as he’s been a point-per-game player, that this season he’s taking a big leap forward from the 75 points he put up last year to be a $10 million player. So can they come to some sort of long-term contract extension for Timo Meier under a number that is not just comfortable for Meier, but also fits the Rangers and their cap moving forward? I don’t think there’s been much happening with Meier and the Sharks in terms of a contract negotiation. It’s front-burner for them to try and maximize the return on Timo Meier and as I said the New York Rangers have emerged as a prime candidate to land Meier’s services. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/daily-faceoff-live-meier-rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Can we trade for Howden first so we can make him the centerpiece of the return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Now that's someone I'd trade Laf for in a deadline move. Question is if he'll agree to an extension under $8m AAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Like the player, but I don't see how he's a fit cap wise. He's going to get minimum 7M and probably closer to 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 $7.5 they could fit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Worked when we brought in Vatrano. Pure sniper on Zibanejad's wing would be great. Same alongside Panarin with Copp. We need guys that can put the puck in the net since our young guys can't step up and do it themselves. Would probably spell the end of Chytil in NY from a cap space perspective next season, and likely Lindgren if they decide to extend Miller long term. Edited January 17, 2023 by Cash or Czech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Worked when we brought in Vatrano. Pure sniper on Zibanejad's wing would be great. Same alongside Panarin with Copp. We need guys that can put the puck in the net since our young guys can't step up and do it themselves. Would probably spell the end of Chytil in NY from a cap space perspective next season, and likely Lindgren if they decide to extend Miller long term. Would be such a kick in the dick to An already mediocre defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Worked when we brought in Vatrano. Pure sniper on Zibanejad's wing would be great. Same alongside Panarin with Copp. We need guys that can put the puck in the net since our young guys can't step up and do it themselves. Would probably spell the end of Chytil in NY from a cap space perspective next season, and likely Lindgren if they decide to extend Miller long term. Not necessarily, the cap is going up in a big way once escrow is paid back. Just have to bridge them until them. They'll likely get bigger deals in the long run if they bet on themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, siddious said: Would be such a kick in the dick to An already mediocre defense I always knew when we signed Ben Harpur he'd be the perfect pairing for Adam Fox /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, Cash or Czech said: I always knew when we signed Ben Harpur he'd be the perfect pairing for Adam Fox /s Lmao they had their trial run yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, Long live the King said: Not necessarily, the cap is going up in a big way once escrow is paid back. Just have to bridge them until them. They'll likely get bigger deals in the long run if they bet on themselves. I don't see it. Chytil already took his bridge deal. Even if K'Andre took the same 3-year/$3mil AAV deal we gave Lindgren, we'd be over the cap if we signed Meier to $8mil and Chytil to ~$4mil. Not even talking about the rest of the depth we'd need to fill out a team. The cap is only going up $1mil next season, doesn't get the significant jump until the season after where it'll reportedly be another $4mil higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, Long live the King said: $7.5 they could fit him. I don't see it. It's tight enough re-signing Miller, Chytil, and Lafreniere. Replacing Lafreniere with a 7.5M Meier just doesn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, rmc51 said: I don't see it. It's tight enough re-signing Miller, Chytil, and Lafreniere. Replacing Lafreniere with a 7.5M Meier just doesn't work. Pretty much this. We have $16mil in cap space next season, with 14 roster spots filled. We need 3-4 forwards, 2-3 defensemen, and a backup goalie. Those needs include re-signing Chytil, Laf, Kravtsov, Key, and Hajek if we decide to keep/don't trade away all our RFAs. We're giving half of that space to Meier and expecting to fill out a better team? It's not gonna fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, Cash or Czech said: I don't see it. Chytil already took his bridge deal. Even if K'Andre took the same 3-year/$3mil AAV deal we gave Lindgren, we'd be over the cap if we signed Meier to $8mil and Chytil to ~$4mil. Not even talking about the rest of the depth we'd need to fill out a team. The cap is only going up $1mil next season, doesn't get the significant jump until the season after where it'll reportedly be another $4mil higher. The reality is that Miller has exploded his point output and the argument he should get the Lindgren contract (which I've used in the past too) is no longer viable. He's going to get mid 4s over 2-3 years. Chytil is probably the same as Miller. He's pacing 26 goals and 53 points on 14 minutes a night. Mid 4s over 2-3 years. It's pretty much at the point that they will have to choose between him and Goodrow. They cannot carry both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, rmc51 said: The reality is that Miller has exploded his point output and the argument he should get the Lindgren contract (which I've used in the past too) is no longer viable. He's going to get mid 4s over 2-3 years. Chytil is probably the same as Miller. He's pacing 26 goals and 53 points on 14 minutes a night. Mid 4s over 2-3 years. It's pretty much at the point that they will have to choose between him and Goodrow. They cannot carry both. I'd sign Key to 7-years $5mil AAV tomorrow to be honest. Lock him in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: I'd sign Key to 7-years $5mil AAV tomorrow to be honest. Lock him in. That's a no brainer even for me, and I'm not even sold on his defense improving to where it needs to be. I think he'd be in the mid 6s on a deal like that, and maybe you still bite the bullet and do it anyway. I haven't walked through the scenario of 1) signing Miller long term like that, 2) bridging Chytil (4s) and Laf (2s), 3) trading Goodrow, to know if it can be done. Edited January 17, 2023 by rmc51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, rmc51 said: That's a no brainer even for me, and I'm not even sold on his defense improving to where it needs to be. I think he'd be in the mid 6s on a deal like that, and maybe you still bite the bullet and do it anyway. I haven't walked through the scenario of 1) signing Miller long term like that, 2) bridging Chytil (4s) and Laf (2s), 3) trading Goodrow, to know if it can be done. With $16mil, getting Key, Laf, and Chytil in at $11mil leaves us $5mil for a backup goalie, one defenseman, one forward, and depth. I think we can manage that, but it'd mean limited space for deadline deals again. One would assume the forward would be one of Othmann, Cuylle, Bedard etc. The defenseman...Harpur again? The backup would be Halak-priced. We can make that work while not shipping out salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 That's where the betting on yourself part comes in. They only have to sign 1 year deals. The following summer the cap jumps and you can trade Kreider and Trouba. You could even give Chytil and Miller and extra $500k each and carry one extra Brendan Smith that can play fill in either on the 4th line of 3rd pair when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 How is he gonna fit? Need wise? Yes. Big time fit. No way to squeeze him undr the cap moving forward, unless they move him the day after the season ends to avoid having to give him that qualifying offer. Is that possible? Get him as a pure rental then trade his rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Miller is likely getting McDonagh's 2nd deal adjusted for inflation. Thinking $5.5-$6 over 6 years. 40 points from defense with zero PP time and plays with dead weight in all situations? It's a steal. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Meier is a great rental but an expensive one. He has no place in the team long term. Wrong contract year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY1 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 If it means losing Miller, Chytil or Lindgren to acquire Meier no way do I do that trade as those three along with Fox, Kaako are going to form the nucleus of the next generation of the Rangers franchise. For some reason Trouba has regressed this season and he’s taking up waaay to much cap space for what he’s contributing to the team, helmet tossing not withstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 If you can get him for say Blais, Jones and #1 pick from Dallas I think you have to do it and worry about the cap in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: If you can get him for say Blais, Jones and #1 pick from Dallas I think you have to do it and worry about the cap in the off season. If they could get him that cheap… yeah great. But that’s a fantasy I think. 26 years old. Already a 2 time 30-goal scorer. Currently having a career year… on pace for a point per game and 45 goals. And an RFA to boot. Granted it’s with Arb rights and I believe it’s for only 1 season… but still. He’s restricted. Hes gonna be expensive to acquire and expensive to keep. They could acquire him and then trade his rights in the summer? But I don’t know what they’d fetch in that deal. Its an interesting plot. But I think they probably just get Kane or Tarasenko. Those guys are established playoff studs. Meier isn’t close to that in terms of his playoff numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: If they could get him that cheap… yeah great. But that’s a fantasy I think. 26 years old. Already a 2 time 30-goal scorer. Currently having a career year… on pace for a point per game and 45 goals. And an RFA to boot. Granted it’s with Arb rights and I believe it’s for only 1 season… but still. He’s restricted. Hes gonna be expensive to acquire and expensive to keep. They could acquire him and then trade his rights in the summer? But I don’t know what they’d fetch in that deal. Its an interesting plot. But I think they probably just get Kane or Tarasenko. Those guys are established playoff studs. Meier isn’t close to that in terms of his playoff numbers. Even if they have to replace Blais with Kravsoft or just add Kravsoft to the deal it's still a no brainer. Question with Tarasenko is always his health and with Kane I thought I read he might be out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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