Rangers, Jets Involved in Negotiations for Pierre-Luc Dubois Trade

[Phil]

 

 

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By the way, according to information obtained during the final, the #Rangers of New York would be more than interested in acquiring Pierre-Luc Dubois. Ongoing negotiations with the #Jets on the parameters of a transaction. It's not done, but Chris Drury is very interested

[josh]

Don’t want to know how expensive that is going to be, trade and salary 

[Blue Heaven]

See ya later Chyts, defensive prospect, draft pick(s)...........

[josh]

1 minute ago, Blue Heaven said:

See ya later Chyts, defensive prospect, draft pick(s)...........

Probably Kakko, Lundkvist, high pick. 
 

[Capt]

2 minutes ago, josh said:

Probably Kakko, Lundkvist, high pick. 
 

How do they fit him in the cap?  Kakko, Lundqvist and a first is a no brainer to me.  Does it work money wise though?

[Capt]

If there is someway to keep Kakko out of it and include Chytil, a line of Laf/PLD,Kakko would be a forechecking monster

[Pete]

6 minutes ago, josh said:

Probably Kakko, Lundkvist, high pick. 
 

Chytil (cap certainty)

Miller OR Schneider

1st

Maybe something extra

 

It's gonna be scary. They gave up a lot to get PLD. They aren't taking the shit we don't want.

[Cash or Czech]

Jets traded Laine and Roslovic to acquire PLD, and PLD hasn't exactly lit up the world on the Jets. Not only that, we can't afford Strome or Copp. How are we going to afford PLD?

[BrooksBurner]

20 minutes ago, Pete said:

Chytil (cap certainty)

Miller OR Schneider

1st

Maybe something extra

 

It's gonna be scary. They gave up a lot to get PLD. They aren't taking the shit we don't want.

 

I was just going to post something similar, though I have to think Miller along with Lafreniere are the two kid non-starters for the Rangers. If that's the demand it's a quick hang up for Drury. There's nobody else under the age of 24 who would be off the table. It would come down to who Winnipeg prefers:

 

Kakko

Schneider

Othmann

Chytil

Lundkvist

Kravtsov

Cuylle

 

2 or 3 guys from that list depending on who. I don't see any scenario that at least 1 of Kakko or Schneider is not involved.

Edited June 29, 2022 by rmc51

[BrooksBurner]

Just now, Cash or Czech said:

Jets traded Laine and Roslovic to acquire PLD, and PLD hasn't exactly lit up the world on the Jets. Not only that, we can't afford Strome or Copp. How are we going to afford PLD?

 

If he's in the vicinity of 7-7.5M x 7 on a long term extension, and the Rangers are shipping out salary in Chytil and/or Kakko, there's plenty of room.

[Cash or Czech]

Just now, rmc51 said:

 

If he's in the vicinity of 7-7.5M x 7 on a long term extension, and the Rangers are shipping out salary in Chytil and/or Kakko, there's plenty of room.

 

Until you have to re-sign Miller and Lafreniere. 

[RichieNextel305]

Wow….

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

 

I was just going to post something similar, though I have to think Miller along with Lafreniere are the two kid non-starters for the Rangers. If that's the demand it's a quick hang up for Drury. There's nobody else under the age of 24 who would be off the table. It would come down to who Winnipeg prefers:

 

Kakko

Schneider

Othmann

Chytil

Kravtsov

Cuylle

 

2 or 3 guys from that list depending on who. I don't see any scenario that at least 1 of Kakko or Schneider is not involved.

I can't see why they want Kakko. They have wings. Chytil. Lose a center, gain a center. 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

Until you have to re-sign Miller and Lafreniere. 

At that point you lose Lindgren. Miller moves up, Robertson comes in. 

[Cash or Czech]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

At that point you lose Lindgren. Miller moves up, Robertson comes in. 

 

Chytil

Lindgren

Lundkvist

Kravtsov

1st

 

If I'm Winnipeg I reject that package. A lot of what ifs and unknowns. I'd deal Schneider in this trade but I don't think I move Key. 

Edited June 29, 2022 by Cash or Czech

[Pete]

5 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

Chytil

Lindgren

Lundkvist

Kravtsov

1st

 

If I'm Winnipeg I reject that package. A lot of what ifs and unknowns. I'd deal Schneider in this trade but I don't think I move Key. 

I never proposed any of that, though. At the point you have to pay Key, Lindgren is up. Move his rights. Not necessarily to WPG in this deal. I'm just talking about how you pay Key and Lafreniere. They also have buyouts coming off the books that year.

 

It's doable.

[BrooksBurner]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

I can't see why they want Kakko. They have wings. Chytil. Lose a center, gain a center. 

 

They have 3 top 6 wings. One of which is Wheeler who is 35 with 2 years left on his deal. Plenty of room for a 21 year old wing and former 2OA.

 

A combination like Kakko/Schneider in return are cheap against the cap. The Jets have plenty of money to buy any center they want on the market, including Kadri if that's what they want to do. Chytil isn't required in the return, but I agree he's one of the more logical pieces to be involved.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

 

They have 3 top 6 wings. One of which is Wheeler who is 35 with 2 years left on his deal. Plenty of room for a 21 year old wing and former 2OA.

 

A combination like Kakko/Schneider in return are cheap against the cap. The Jets have plenty of money to buy any center they want on the market, including Kadri if that's what they want to do. Chytil isn't required in the return, but I agree he's one of the more logical pieces to be involved.

If the Rangers bring in PLD, they have to move Chytil or they're basically trotting out the same issues they had this season with depth. Goodrow needs to be the 3C for this team to have success, IMO. Based both on what he brings, and his cap hit, he's wasted on the 4th line.

Edited June 29, 2022 by Pete

[Phil]

So, the more I think about this, the more I think this would be something like Kakko, Lundkvist, and the Rangers' 2023 first (lottery protected) for Dubois and a mid-round pick (probably a third). Reason being, I think you can backtrack here some and view the efforts to patch the relationship with Kravtsov with this now in mind. Kravtsov is the Kakko "replacement," and you don't have to give up your third-line center in Chytil in the deal.

[BrooksBurner]

Just now, Pete said:

If the Rangers bring in PLD, they have to move Chytil or they're basically trotting out the same issues they had this season with depth. Goodrow needs to be the 3C for this team to have success, IMO.

 

Yes, maybe, but that's from a Rangers standpoint. From a Winnipeg standpoint, why do they need Chytil if they can use their cap savings from PLD to sign a Kadri, Strome, or even get Copp back?

[Pete]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

 

Yes, maybe, but that's from a Rangers standpoint. From a Winnipeg standpoint, why do they need Chytil if they can use their cap savings from PLD to sign a Kadri, Strome, or even get Copp back?

Because who's the last big-time (or medium time) UFA that willingly signed where they have no parks?

[Phil]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

 

Yes, maybe, but that's from a Rangers standpoint. From a Winnipeg standpoint, why do they need Chytil if they can use their cap savings from PLD to sign a Kadri, Strome, or even get Copp back?

 

More than this, why would they want a third-line center with aspirations of being a second-line center when they can use the cap savings from trading PLD to sign or trade for a much more impactful player?

[BrooksBurner]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

Because who's the last big-time (or medium time) UFA that willingly signed where they have no parks?

 

True. Perhaps this is an important variable that either allows a PLD trade to happen or not. Whether or not they can convince a UFA center to sign with them to fill the gap.

[siddious]

I’d rather re-sign strome than get PLD for free. The guy doesn’t impress me. Talent is all there but the rest? Not so sure. 

[Pete]

Just now, siddious said:

I’d rather re-sign strome than get PLD for free. The guy doesn’t impress me. Talent is all there but the rest? Not so sure. 

@Phil pin this as the hottest take of the offseason, please. I need to access the receipts later, if the deal goes down.