Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Quote Look for him to try to offload defenseman Patrik Nemeth, who turned into a healthy scratch in the playoffs and has two years remaining at $2.5 million per season. The Rangers would likely have to attach an asset to the 30-year-old to convince another team to take him, with the other alternative being a buyout. That would save $1.5 million next season and leave them with a cap hit of $1 million. There would actually be no cap penalty for the 2023-24 season, then $1 million each year for 2024-25 and 2025-26, according to CapFriendly. https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2022/06/13/ny-rangers-offseason-news-after-losing-tampa-bay-lightning/7602712001/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEKRanger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I think they pretty much have to do this given their cap situation, and I'm not against trading an asset to get cap space. Also, I think Schneider is ready and Jones is almost ready, so the need for a veteran sixth is less acute (also, Miller has progresses, so D1 - D4 is solid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 No more buyouts, please.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Would a team like Buffalo, who needs help getting to the cap floor, be interested? I'm sure they'd love to get a pick to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Said it in another thread, but I'll say it again because it makes sense to have a more dedicated conversation about Nemeth: 1. He sucks for what he was supposed to be for the Rangers. 2. He doesn't suck so much they will have a lot of trouble moving him. He's a well-liked veteran with an affordable cap hit and term ($2.5 x 2 remaining). The key is going to be figuring out which teams they can talk deal with given his 8-team no-trade protection. If conventional logic holds true, that 8-team is all of Canada (because that always seems to be the case) plus one — the one, presumably, being Arizona. Assuming this is the case, that still leaves quite a few lottery clubs with loads of cap room and reason to play ball. Buffalo, Anaheim, Nashville, Seattle. Hell, maybe the Avs would even take him if Johnson, Murray, and Manson all walk. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Would a team like Buffalo, who needs help getting to the cap floor, be interested? I'm sure they'd love to get a pick to make it happen. Absolutely, presuming they're not on his list. I know we all hate him, but this isn't one of those deals that's impossible to make. He's actually easily traded. They add some mild sweetener, take back a mid-round pick or B-level prospect to fill a hole for a year or two, and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 whole signing makes me sick tho...we're lucky we found braun, i dont think we make it to the final with this guy playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I would look at someone like Jan Rutta from Tampa to fill the 6th/7th dman next season. Plays both sides and comes with experience and costs around 1.5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I would look at someone like Jan Rutta from Tampa to fill the 6th/7th dman next season. Plays both sides and comes with experience and costs around 1.5M. Pretty good at giving headlocks and not getting a penalty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Blue Heaven said: Pretty good at giving headlocks and not getting a penalty too. I always tell my teammates it's only a penalty if the ref calls it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I would look at someone like Jan Rutta from Tampa to fill the 6th/7th dman next season. Plays both sides and comes with experience and costs around 1.5M. I wouldn't. I'd just keep Braun. Rutta is awful. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Phil said: I wouldn't. I'd just keep Braun. Rutta is awful. Depends on how much Braun wants. He's coming off a 1.8M cap hit. If he wants that or more I look for a cheaper 7th dman so I can spend money elsewhere. Drury has to cut corners where he can if he wants to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 $1.35m x 2 cap hit if you bury him. 1m x 3 (years 1, 2, 4) if bought out don’t think either is worth moving a pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 No shit. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Braun grew on me but he’s gotta be #7 behind jones or lundqvist next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, siddious said: Braun grew on me but he’s gotta be #7 behind jones or lundqvist next season. Braun was solid for us. Once Nemeth was supplanted it was nice to see someone decent fill his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Depends on how much Braun wants. He's coming off a 1.8M cap hit. If he wants that or more I look for a cheaper 7th dman so I can spend money elsewhere. Drury has to cut corners where he can if he wants to improve the team. Braun is 35. He's getting a one-year deal. Maybe two. Probably for the same amount Giordano just signed for with the Leafs. $800K per. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, siddious said: Braun grew on me but he’s gotta be #7 behind jones or lundqvist next season. No, he doesn't. Because neither of those guys are all that good, either. But they can come in and compete, no problem. A would-be Braun extension would be to be a 6/7 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Phil said: No, he doesn't. Because neither of those guys are all that good, either. But they can come in and compete, no problem. A would-be Braun extension would be to be a 6/7 anyway. I’d argue jones looked better than nemeth with his limited time but it’s not important. other than that I don’t think we’re of different opinion here. Kids have to earn the spots one way or another because you’re not putting jones and lunkvist both out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Quote 9. Patrik Nemeth Left Defense, New York Rangers Age: 30 Contract: 2 more seasons, $2.5 million AAV Buyout Cap Charges: $1 mil (2022-23), $0 (2023-24), $1 mil (2024-25), $1 mil (2025-26) Scoop: Nemeth clearly did not garner the trust of coach Gerard Gallant in the playoffs. He appeared in the first four games of Round 1 against the Penguins, then didn’t skate a single shift in Game 5 until the Rangers iced a two-goal lead with 16 seconds left. Nemeth was a healthy scratch in the final 15 consecutive games to end the Rangers’ postseason. A buyout provides an immediate $1.5 million in cap savings next year. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/edmonton-oilers-zack-kassian-among-10-buyout-candidates-ahead-of-nhl-buyout-window/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I’d give Nemeth a few weeks next season to see where he’s at. He went through a ton of personal shit this season, and he’s better than this. but that also gives a few of the kids to battle it out in the AHL to come up and take that 6th spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 Quote Drury’s biggest free-agent swing last summer was a massive whiff. Nemeth had an emotional first year with the Rangers, dealing with personal issues that kept him away from the team for a couple of stretches, and he never filled the defensive stalwart/PK specialist role Drury and Gerard Gallant wanted for him. Nemeth was in street clothes for the final 16 playoff games. If Drury can find a taker, Nemeth will be wearing a different uniform next fall. https://theathletic.com/3375740/2022/06/23/rangers-who-stays-who-goes/?source=user_shared_article&redirected=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Colorado fans straight up were shocked we gave him the deal we did. They said he was dreadful. He lived up to that, especially in the playoffs. Though, JMFJ is about to win a Cup and he was awful for us as well. Maybe it's us and not them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 JMFJ is still awful. He just plays for a wagon and wasn't given three years at $2.5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I hate buyouts with a passion. This was a rough year for Nemeth, but with cap space at a premium, it may not afford him another chance this season to try and increase his value here. It's like the movie Casino....seems like we're always looking to bury someone in the desert (Arizona)!! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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