Target Nolan Patrick

[The Dude]

Since we are throwing some names around as far as options to upgrade at forward,  how about Nolan Patrick?

Very underwhelming career so far after going 2nd overall in 17, yet much better than our 1st and 2nd OAs. He's since been dealt by the Flyers and has been toiling on the IR with Vegas this year. 

Does he have a spot once Eichel is ready, which should be within a month or so?  Is it worth trying to plug him in as a 3rd line center? If the cost is Chytil, does that move a needle? What's he worth? 

Vegas needs the cap space.  Can the Rangers cash in here and get Smith and Patrick for Chytil a pick and a defensive prospect like Lundkvist? Getting both a rental and a semi reclamation project to use for center depth going forward?

Or is a guy like Brassard more like what they should be aiming for,  which I have zero problem with.  

[Keirik]

Oct 30, 2021	Upper body injury, injured reserve.
Oct 24, 2021	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Sep 19, 2021	Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Vegas Golden Knights to a two-year contract.
Jul 26, 2021	Vegas Golden Knights tendered a qualifying offer.
Jul 17, 2021	Acquired from the Philadelphia Flyers
Apr 20, 2021	Missed 2 games (head injury).
Apr 17, 2021	Head injury, day-to-day.
Oct 16, 2020	Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Philadelphia Flyers to a one-year contract.
Oct 07, 2020	Philadelphia Flyers tendered a qualifying offer.
Sep 05, 2020	Missed all 69 regular season and all 16 playoff games (migraine).
Oct 01, 2019	Migraine, non-roster list.
Apr 06, 2019	Missed the last 2 regular season games (upper body injury).
Apr 04, 2019	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Mar 09, 2019	Missed 1 game (upper body injury).
Mar 06, 2019	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Jan 05, 2019	Missed 4 games (upper body injury).
Dec 28, 2018	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Oct 20, 2018	Missed 3 games (upper body injury).
Oct 11, 2018	Upper body injury, sidelined indefinitely.
Nov 16, 2017	Missed 9 games (upper body injury).
Oct 30, 2017	Upper body injury, injured reserve.
Oct 26, 2017	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Jul 17, 2017	Signed by the Philadelphia Flyers to a three-year entry-level contract.
Jun 23, 2017	Drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers in the 1st round (2nd overall) in 2017.

[Ozzy]

I gotta say....the more I think about the situation with that 3rd line and Chytil, the more I think @Phil (and a few others) have the right idea with Giroux.

All these other trade targets we've been tossing around....I say fuck it...with all the youth on this team, we can afford to go get the RIGHT guy for once.  I think Giroux would slide in perfectly with Yukon and Gauthier, and that line automatically becomes relevant.

He's in the last year of his deal and I'll bet we can get him on a solid 3 year deal after that, which would probably equate to whatever the hell we would pay Chytil.

[Shane Falco]

39 minutes ago, Keirik said:

Oct 30, 2021	Upper body injury, injured reserve.
Oct 24, 2021	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Sep 19, 2021	Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Vegas Golden Knights to a two-year contract.
Jul 26, 2021	Vegas Golden Knights tendered a qualifying offer.
Jul 17, 2021	Acquired from the Philadelphia Flyers
Apr 20, 2021	Missed 2 games (head injury).
Apr 17, 2021	Head injury, day-to-day.
Oct 16, 2020	Re-signed as a restricted free agent by the Philadelphia Flyers to a one-year contract.
Oct 07, 2020	Philadelphia Flyers tendered a qualifying offer.
Sep 05, 2020	Missed all 69 regular season and all 16 playoff games (migraine).
Oct 01, 2019	Migraine, non-roster list.
Apr 06, 2019	Missed the last 2 regular season games (upper body injury).
Apr 04, 2019	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Mar 09, 2019	Missed 1 game (upper body injury).
Mar 06, 2019	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Jan 05, 2019	Missed 4 games (upper body injury).
Dec 28, 2018	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Oct 20, 2018	Missed 3 games (upper body injury).
Oct 11, 2018	Upper body injury, sidelined indefinitely.
Nov 16, 2017	Missed 9 games (upper body injury).
Oct 30, 2017	Upper body injury, injured reserve.
Oct 26, 2017	Upper body injury, day-to-day.
Jul 17, 2017	Signed by the Philadelphia Flyers to a three-year entry-level contract.
Jun 23, 2017	Drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers in the 1st round (2nd overall) in 2017.

[josh]

Isn’t Howden playing over him?

 

great option to look at over the summer, but not at the trade deadline. 

[Vodka Drunkenski]

The same guy that complains about Drury wants to trade for Nolan Patrick?  You can’t make this shit up

[Long live the King]

What has Patrick done that's "much better" than Kakko?

[The Dude]

5 hours ago, josh said:

Isn’t Howden playing over him?

 

great option to look at over the summer, but not at the trade deadline. 

Hes... been hurt. Again.  

[The Dude]

4 hours ago, Long live the King said:

What has Patrick done that's "much better" than Kakko?

I dunno. 2- 30 point seasons in his first 2 seasons that deemed him as a semi bust. Yet we celebrate a good shift by Kakko as if he's a world beater. 

I'm suggesting the guy as a reclamation project to fill in as the 3rd line center..   Not as our future. 

 

 

 

[Keirik]

45 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I dunno. 2- 30 point seasons in his first 2 seasons that deemed him as a semi bust. Yet we celebrate a good shift by Kakko as if he's a world beater. 

I'm suggesting the guy as a reclamation project to fill in as the 3rd line center..   Not as our future. 

 

 

 

It would just be hard to count on Patrick for anything even in a reduced role. 

[Pete]

Why is anyone comparing a 3C to Kakko? The only question is if he's better than Chytil. The answer is "lateral move". At best.  

[Vodka Drunkenski]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Why is anyone comparing a 3C to Kakko? The only question is if he's better than Chytil. The answer is "lateral move". At best.  

Unfortunately he has both of us blocked so can’t talk much sense into him, although he needs a shit ton of it

[The Dude]

2 hours ago, Keirik said:

It would just be hard to count on Patrick for anything even in a reduced role. 

Understood and there's good reason for your concern and I understand. Just trying to get conversation started for more options or expanded deals on names already brought up. 

Smith has been brought up as a wing option and I think he fits needs pretty well,  but I would like to see more coming back if the cost is youth going the other way.

I'd like to supplement that youth any way possible in such a trade. If it means taking on a kid picked high, with some injury issues and questions about his overall ability, that's better than a draft pick or nothing at all. Trying to kill 2 birds with one stone here 

[Keirik]

1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Understood and there's good reason for your concern and I understand. Just trying to get conversation started for more options or expanded deals on names already brought up. 

Smith has been brought up as a wing option and I think he fits needs pretty well,  but I would like to see more coming back if the cost is youth going the other way.

I'd like to supplement that youth any way possible in such a trade. If it means taking on a kid picked high, with some injury issues and questions about his overall ability, that's better than a draft pick or nothing at all. Trying to kill 2 birds with one stone here 

Smith is more realistic just because Vegas has to shed salary. Patrick has a very small cap hit so I don’t know if they would really entertain offers for him. He’s not untouchable or anything but his value won’t garner much and his cap hit just makes him easier on their roster.  Think they’d probably prefer to keep him and hope they catch lightning in a bottle. 

[Cash or Czech]

Nolan Patrick is hurt so often, his 'last 5 games' stat on NHL.com only has four games. 

[Keirik]

Last 5 games include 3 different seasons probably lol 

[Vodka Drunkenski]

But let’s trade for him!!!

[RJWantsTheCup]

When Rooney comes back they really should move Chytil to Stromes line.  Use Rooney as 3rd line center between Gauthier and Lafraniere and put Hunt back on the 4th line with Goodrow and Reaves.   The Hunt experiment was good for like 2 games.  

[Flynn]

[Cash or Czech]

25 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said:

When Rooney comes back they really should move Chytil to Stromes line.  Use Rooney as 3rd line center between Gauthier and Lafraniere and put Hunt back on the 4th line with Goodrow and Reaves.   The Hunt experiment was good for like 2 games.  

 

I'd prefer Goodrow as a make-shift 3C. His physicality, Gauthier's somewhat physicality, idk what he is anymore, should open some space for Laf. Rooney is having a nice season, but it's also because he's playing as a 4C and penalty killer which is exactly what he is.

[Sod16]