Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 :link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 God, hockey in Western Canada is fucking depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Why would the Flames make this trade? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 If Lucic can be traded I don't see how the Rangers can't trade Shattenkirk somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Why would the Flames make this trade? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Neal was relegated to the 4th line last year. Lucic would be a better 4th liner for them than Neal. Money is a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Truth, this is just crap for crap. Both are gambling, but Neal probably returns to form faster than Luc. This this is all about Johnny getting protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Oh what fun it is getting together and swapping terrible contracts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Truth, this is just crap for crap. Both are gambling, but Neal probably returns to form faster than Luc. This this is all about Johnny getting protection. Neal can still skate. It's a win for the Oilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 If Lucic can be traded I don't see how the Rangers can't trade Shattenkirk somehow. Completely different circumstances. Brooks has said repeatedly that there's no market for Shattenkirk except in the event they take back an onerous contract like the Oilers just did here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Completely different circumstances. Brooks has said repeatedly that there's no market for Shattenkirk except in the event they take back an onerous contract like the Oilers just did here. Not that you want to think of it exactly like that, but Shattenkirk is at least an average defender per Corsi. I think there's got to be a team out there with a need for a PPQB and mid-level defense at, say, 4.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Not that you want to think of it exactly like that, but Shattenkirk is at least an average defender per Corsi. I think there's got to be a team out there with a need for a PPQB and mid-level defense at, say, 4.5m. There isn't. Not anymore. That window, if it ever existed, closed up tighter than a snare drum when TOR traded for Barrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 One of the guys at The Athletic suggested this trade might happen a couple of weeks back, and was absolutely torched by Flames fans in the comments. I bet they’re happy now. I really don’t like this trade from a Flames perspective. Feels like a knee jerk reaction from being dumped out early, watching the Blues win and deciding they needed to “get tougher”. It’s a no brainer for the Oilers though. Lucic wasn’t doing anything there, and it’s 100% worth gambling on Neal rediscovering his game on the wing of either McDavid or Draisaitl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The deal also includes a conditional 3rd for the Flames if Neal outscores Lucic by 10 goals, which seems like a pretty good bet to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The deal also includes a conditional 3rd for the Flames if Neal outscores Lucic by 10 goals, which seems like a pretty good bet to happen. If that happens its a win for Flames I guess Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 When a head scratcher deal happens, any deal really, there's always backstory. Wouldn't be surprised if Neal complained about his experience in Calgary, and Calgary turned around and said... "Oh yea? Try this in for size..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 TFW you think Calgary is awful and you get shipped 300 miles North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The deal also includes a conditional 3rd for the Flames if Neal outscores Lucic by 10 goals, which seems like a pretty good bet to happen. Hah, they're literally gambling on stats. This is degenerative Alberta at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 No real winners or losers here. I think Neal has a bit more potential to produce near his contract value. Maybe Calgary needed a shot of leadership or whatever the hell it is Lucic brings. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 No real winners or losers here. I think Neal has a bit more potential to produce near his contract value. Maybe Calgary needed a shot of leadership or whatever the hell it is Lucic brings. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I can only guess here, but I think their idea is that Neal wasn't cracking their top 6 in a month of Sundays, and Lucic might add a bit of physicality and snarl to their bottom 6 that they've been lacking. Not that I necessarily agree with it, but if I had to guess that's what I'd go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 The one thing I think Calgary can offer that Edmonton can't re: Lucic is a better team overall, which can allow them to stash him down the lineup with better results. He'll be a drag regardless, but the quality of Calgary's depth is superior, which can at least somewhat mitigate his negative impact. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The deal also includes a conditional 3rd for the Flames if Neal outscores Lucic by 10 goals, which seems like a pretty good bet to happen. what kind of a condition is that? feels like two friends making a bet on whose favorite player scores more goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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