Phil Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Link: Link: Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 A second buyout window? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 A second buyout window? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 A second buyout window? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk There was a buyout period before UFA to clear cap space. Now, since the Rangers have arbitration cases, they will have another window after the rulings to manage their cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 So Buch and Trouba are eventually signing and giving the team more leeway with the cap as well? Sent from my Z981 using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Yeah, they’ve probably been asked to file. Somebody’s getting bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Somebody’s getting bought out. Please let it be me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They can still sign before arbitration, right? I don't think I know what filing for arbitration really means. Edit - and after reading some posts, this is helpful to us...is that just because of the second buyout window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They can still sign before arbitration, right? I don't think I know what filing for arbitration really means. Edit - and after reading some posts, this is helpful to us...is that just because of the second buyout window? Arbitration is a third party that determines the salary of a player based on hearing testimony from each side. Essentially, this is an "end date" with the players rights locked into that team (unless the elects to walk away from the arbitration award). They can continue to negotiate terms up until the final decision is given by the arbitrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 A bit risky too unless there was a *understanding* between the parties before filing. Not ethical, and possibly not legal either, but certainly can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They can still sign before arbitration, right? I don't think I know what filing for arbitration really means. Edit - and after reading some posts, this is helpful to us...is that just because of the second buyout window? They also can't have a offer sheet tended to them by another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Doesn't this scream Smith buy out because we couldn't trade some middle 6ers to free cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They typically settle immediately before the hearing. Do they still get the second UFA period if they settle before the hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I'm struggling to think of comparable players for Trouba. The $7.5+ mil per season seems kind of high to me based on his past performance. I was looking at a little more than a guy like Esa Lindell or Ristolainen. I imagined that he would come in closer to $7 mil a season when we first got him but I might end up being a mil off each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 If we pay Trouba less than 8 I'll be absolutely thrilled. That said, I think he's worth 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I'm struggling to think of comparable players for Trouba. The $7.5+ mil per season seems kind of high to me based on his past performance. I was looking at a little more than a guy like Esa Lindell or Ristolainen. I imagined that he would come in closer to $7 mil a season when we first got him but I might end up being a mil off each year. He can be in the #2 D tier with McDonagh , OEL, Byfuglien, Vlasic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6.5 is the number for me, or bridge him. 8 for Trouba is an over pay. He's played a full season twice, and has been over THIRTY points only twice, and, those two facts don't even correlate. He had a season with 20 points in 80 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6.5 is the number for me, or bridge him. 8 for Trouba is an over pay. He's played a full season twice, and has been over THIRTY points only twice, and, those two facts don't even correlate. He had a season with 20 points in 80 games.This is where my head is at. It's too big a leap and risk for me that he'll somehow become a consistent stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 He has to played full season because of hold outs. To avoid that, lock it down long term. 7y x hopefully under 8. The lower the better. Based on only giving up Pionk, I’m more lenient with the cap hit. (If under 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Trouba stepped up to 50 points because he got a lot more PP time due to Buff's injury, including 10 more PP assists than he had ever had before. He clamored for opportunity. He got more, he delivered more. On that basis, I would weight last year a lot higher than his 21 yo season (81g, 21p) - regarding it as a strong positive trend rather than a possible anomaly. He is headed for more opportunity than he's ever seen before and is potentially a lynch pin of the team. Don't pay him like you're making an arbitration argument and don't believe in him. $7.5 with reachable performance incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Trouba stepped up to 50 points because he got a lot more PP time due to Buff's injury, including 10 more PP assists than he had ever had before. He clamored for opportunity. He got more, he delivered more. On that basis, I would weight last year a lot higher than his 21 yo season (81g, 21p) - regarding it as a strong positive trend rather than a possible anomaly. He is headed for more opportunity than he's ever seen before and is potentially a lynch pin of the team. Don't pay him like you're making an arbitration argument and don't believe in him. $7.5 with reachable performance incentives. 7.5 should be where it's at. 7 is probably fair and he probably really wants 8. Cut it down the middle and lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think the deal would be done it the Ranger FO was willing to do 7.5. I don't think they are immediately willing to do that. Which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrangers Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think he's a big upgrade based on the steaming pile of dung back there. I'm not sure he's a stud that we desperately want him to be. But it's all relative to who else is back there. Right or wrong I would think he lands in the middle @ 7.75M. Everybody seems to be within .5M of so of each other here. ** Dunny I hope your right and they can squeeze him down to 7M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Does anyone know if they sign before the hearing if we still get the second buyout window? Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 They’ve probably been asked to file and it’ll be the shortest arbitration meeting ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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