Gravesy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 What else do they need? Defensive D? Throw in Staal at 50% retained. I mean 2/3 of a second line pushes everyone down and all of a sudden that third line one of the better ones in the league with their new assignments. In addition to better forward depth they need goaltending and D. They’re letting in more goals than anyone currently in a playoff position. Significantly more in most cases. They’ve only let in 7 fewer than the Rangers ffs. This team isn’t ready for a run yet. IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In addition to better forward depth they need goaltending and D. They?re letting in more goals than anyone currently in a playoff position. Significantly more in most cases. They?ve only let in 7 fewer than the Rangers ffs. This team isn?t ready for a run yet. IMO of course.Oh so Lundy, too? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 But with Hayes it also comes back to whether or not they think he could be a piece for the future - its not like he's 35 and trying to make 1 more Cup run. You can trade a first for a C you know is good, or draft one you hope is good. I'd rather have Hayes for 3-4 years as a contender than just hope that Jost/Bowers turns into a legit 2c. I don’t disagree with that, merely saying this is not the time for them to flip their future for a run at the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Oh so Lundy, too? Nice. I’m down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 If they got a 3rd line, two top pair dmen and traded Buchnevich, Names, Staal, Shattenkirk, Smith, D'Angelo, Pionk and either Andersson or Howden they might be decent. Almost forgot to add if Zuccs plays this way all the time and Hayes plays like he did right before his mystery injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 They can't afford him, nor do they need him. Hayes again linked today by The Hockey Writers as one of Boston?s top targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 https://thehockeywriters.com/boston-bruins-trade-targets-new-york-rangers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hayes again linked today by The Hockey Writers as one of Boston?s top targets.Yea I mean bloggers gonna blog. Doesn't mean much. Read their comments on him and you immediately realize they don't watch Rangers games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Boston does not excite me as a trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Boston does not excite me as a trade partner. Thinking the same thing. I wouldn't want the Rangers to trade Hayes for Boston's 1st, and who knows if Boston would do that either. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Boston does not excite me as a trade partner. They shouldn't. There's very little left, if anything, in their system, that the Rangers ought to be excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Donato and a first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Donato is Jimmy Vesey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 They do look alike. Guy will be 23 soon. And having issues cracking the nhl on a regular basis. Is there something I’m missing, or are we continuing to target 3rd liners with 2nd line upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Boston does not excite me as a trade partner. While no one could have foreseen Nash's concussion, wonder if the Bruins might be reluctant to make a big deal with NYR. They did the McQuaid thing, but Hayes would be a more Nash-like big move. Charlie McEvoy? In the grand karma scheme even with Nash, they owe us for the Rick Middleton f up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 They do look alike. Guy will be 23 soon. And having issues cracking the nhl on a regular basis. Is there something I’m missing, or are we continuing to target 3rd liners with 2nd line upside? I’m all for targeting better prospects but Boston doesn’t really have anything and other teams probably aren’t trading top flight prospects for a rental. Could be wrong but most teams /people value those type of prospects you pine for more than two months of the kind of player you don’t want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 While no one could have foreseen Nash's concussion, wonder if the Bruins might be reluctant to make a big deal with NYR. They did the McQuaid thing, but Hayes would be a more Nash-like big move. Charlie McEvoy? In the grand karma scheme even with Nash, they owe us for the Rick Middleton f up. They?re not trading McAvoy for Hayes. No chance. Getting Donato and a 1st is the definition of ?meh?. Not completely awful but certainly not great either. It might be the best you can get out of Boston though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The MB GM'S rear their ugly heads once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 With Toronto needing a D man, why wouldnt they be in the market for Staal? Also, wouldnt that be the one destination that Staal would consider waiving his NTC? Lets get some Staal to Toronto rumors going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 With Toronto needing a D man, why wouldnt they be in the market for Staal? Also, wouldnt that be the one destination that Staal would consider waiving his NTC? Lets get some Staal to Toronto rumors going. cap. If they are getting a Petro or Pesce, they'd trade a D prospect and Brown/Kapanen/similar, but they cant give that up for Staal. Unless we take Zaitsev... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 With Toronto needing a D man, why wouldnt they be in the market for Staal? Also, wouldnt that be the one destination that Staal would consider waiving his NTC? Lets get some Staal to Toronto rumors going. I mean, they might, but I doubt it. He can't keep up with that team or make the first pass required to play for Mike Babcock effectively. I also doubt he sneaks past Dubas' analytically-aligned radar. Not when objectively better options exist in Gudas or Muzzin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I mean, they might, but I doubt it. He can't keep up with that team or make the first pass required to play for Mike Babcock effectively. I also doubt he sneaks past Dubas' analytically-aligned radar. Not when objectively better options exist in Gudas or Muzzin. Might be a good time to see what Pionk is worth ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 He's not what they need. Pionk needs to go to a team looking for a little offensive help on the blue line. The Leafs need help stopping goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Right, that's Marc Staal's specialty. You were equally critical of Girardi's perceived ineptness. How's he doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 He's not what they need. Pionk needs to go to a team looking for a little offensive help on the blue line. The Leafs need help stopping goals. he's a great practice player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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