Gravesy Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Every team that makes the playoffs has a chance to win the Cup. For the pre-emptive "everyone who bought a Mega Millions ticket had a chance to win that too"....sure, but sports is funny sometimes. Hot teams can surprise in the playoffs. I've seen it in several sports. I saw it twice in the NFL with the Giants sneaking in and taking down juggernaut teams. I've seen it in the NHL with the 2011-2012 Kings as I mentioned a couple posts up. In theory. In reality this team isn’t anywhere near good enough to get past 1 contender in a playoff series, let alone 4. In any case they won’t be making the playoffs so the discussion is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 You think this team has a chance to win the cup? I’ll have a cup of whatever it is you’re having :cheers: If you make the playoffs, you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Not everyone, but a load of people who knew nothing about him. I’m honestly not sure what the point is here. The people that want high draft picks are the ones that whine about the players they draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Odds are you?ll be obsessed with another set of late first-round draft picks. I don?t think I can remember a top 5 picked guy you wanted to acquire after he was drafted Rick Nash. And they're never made available unless they bust, so I'm not really sure what kind of point that is you're making. I've argued repeatedly that drafting that player, rather than buying them in free agency as the team has done for decades, is a better solution given the age and price factor. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The people that want high draft picks are the ones that whine about the players they draft. This isn't the point either. You're all over the map. This is like a shotgun argument where you're just spraying a bunch of loosely connected points and hoping one hits. But to speak to this directly, it's not my fault if the Rangers constantly go off board and try and outsmart scouts on draft day. Doesn't change the fact that high picks stand a significantly better chance of being impact players for longer than free agents signed near or past the wrong side of 30. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 In reality. In theory this team isn’t anywhere near good enough to get past 1 contender in a playoff series, let alone 4. In any case they won’t be making the playoffs so the discussion is moot. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Why? What value is there in watching the team get swept in the opening round only to suffer a consolation middle round first pick? This pain is temporary. Embrace it. Own it. Get the highest pick you're bound to by not putting Band-Aids on bullet wounds and be an actually good team in the next 2-3 years. I'm so fucking done with patching tires to say "at least they made the playoffs." The goal is to win a Cup; not serve as a door mat opening matchup to the top seed. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk So why did you root for the Capitals to beat Tampa last playoffs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 They’re nowhere near good enough. That is a fact my good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Don't be tangibly competitive now, so we can be theoretically competitive later. Nah, I could be dead tomorrow. I don't see how one more draft makes us heads and tails better than we are now. Perhaps, if we could guarantee a top 2 pick this year, I'd feel differently, but we can't. It's not as if our cupboard is bare and we already have three more picks in top 60 this year. So, nah. I want some W's. And if you were to die tomorrow, would you go more peacefully if you could say, "At least I got to see the boys go out in the 1st round to Carolina in 5?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 So why did you root for the Capitals to beat Tampa last playoffs again? This again? I've explained it already. Go dig those threads up. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Rick Nash. And they're never made available unless they bust, so I'm not really sure what kind of point that is you're making. I've argued repeatedly that drafting that player, rather than buying them in free agency as the team has done for decades, is a better solution given the age and price factor. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Top picks can’t bust! Odds are, top picks will be traded or bust more often than be worth where they are drafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The same as a high draft pick, plus playoff games and a chance to win the cup. That's unequivocally false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Not everyone, but a load of people who knew nothing about him. I’m honestly not sure what the point is here. Even the people who knew something about him were not over the moon, to say otherwise is revisionist history. It wasn't until days/weeks later that people warmed up to the pick. And you know what, josh? Who cares? I'm not allowed to be pissed at a pick at the draft, and then change my mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Odds are you’ll be obsessed with another set of late first-round draft picks. I don’t think I can remember a top 5 picked guy you wanted to acquire after he was drafted Gaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 FA signing. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Even the people who knew something about him were not over the moon, to say otherwise is revisionist history. It wasn't until days/weeks later that people warmed up to the pick. And you know what, josh? Who cares? I'm not allowed to be pissed at a pick at the draft, and then change my mind? I was happy with the pick. Several others were as well. Check the thread if you can be bothered. People like Pronman loved the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Kravtsov was a guy I reacted negatively toward but was talked into liking a lot more after the fact. But this was because I was resigned to Wahlstrom. Similar to Pettersson/Mittelstadt/Andersson from the prior draft. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 We’ll talk you into liking the guy we take at 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 We?ll talk you into liking the guy we take at 31The one we get for Zucc or Hayes from the eventual cup champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The one we get for Zucc or Hayes from the eventual cup champ. When we win the whole fucking thing! (TBs pick :() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 This again? I've explained it already. Go dig those threads up. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Because it didn?t make sense back then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Because it didn?t make sense back then eitherYes it did. He wanted to see AO win. It's good for hockey. Christ Almighty... Don't make me come up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It don’t make sense Based on ODDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It made perfect sense. As a hockey fan, which I am first, I wanted to see Ovechkin win. So as a Rangers fan, which I am second, I let my hockey fandom trump my Rangers' desires. Especially because the Rangers still have an opportunity to win that same pick should Tampa (Go Bolts!) win this year. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It made perfect sense. As a hockey fan, which I am first, I wanted to see Ovechkin win. So as a Rangers fan, which I am second, I let my hockey fandom trump my Rangers' desires. Especially because the Rangers still have an opportunity to win that same pick should Tampa (Go Bolts!) win this year. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by TapatalkFinally this guy's sayin some shit that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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