ThirtyONE Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 He has one year left after this season @ 4,625,000. He's 27. He has value. It's clear the Rangers "veterans" just aren't that good. That was true before trading Grabner and Nash. It's even more evident now. There isn't another step for Kreider. He's a one tool player and a fine complimentary player on a good team. On this team, however, his value exists only in trade potential. He's not suddenly going to become a 40 goal guy. Or even a 30 goal guy. It's likely a hard pill to swallow for Ranger brass because he was hyped up pretty good before joining as a rookie and he's been a really solid Ranger over the years but if we're rebuilding, which we are, there doesn't seem to be any reason to keep the "vets" that have trade value. With a year left on his contract, he could be the most valuable. I like Kreider a lot but it's at least something they should be considering.
Pete Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Funny I was going to open a thread like this. Move him. Early.
josh Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Mentioned awhile ago, he’ll bring back more than anyone else He hasn’t been playing well, either. Perhaps his agent is in the know A shame The College Boys have been the ones struggling the most during this transition
BrooksBurner Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I'd like to think any of the vets are available at the right price, but I also think it depends on what their plans are for this upcoming offseason. Are they planning to pursue Panarin, Stone, or a combination of high end free agents? If so, it doesn't make sense to unload any of the better veterans except maybe Zuccarello since he's an expiring contract anyway and will likely get too much money on the next contract. I think they would look to unload Zibanejad before Kreider by the way. Much like Stepan when he was dumped, Zibanejad has an NMC kicking in during the offseason for the remainder of his contract. He would also command the most for a return of any player we could trade. Even with an NMC, his contract is at a great rate and I think would fetch quite a bit. Multiple picks (first rounder included) and/or near NHL-ready prospects.
Phil Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I'd be dangling him right alongside Hayes, Zuccarello, Namestnikov, Spooner, and McQuaid.
Sod16 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Kreider is cold; the trade Kreider threads heat up. Kreider gets hot; they stop.
phillyb Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Something around CK to EDM for Poolparty. And then, while Chiarelli is on the line, you see what he offers for Skjei as well.
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I'd be dangling him right alongside Hayes, Zuccarello, Namestnikov, Spooner, and McQuaid. I would add Shattenkirk and Staal to the list if anyone will take them, but don't trade guys just for the sake of trading them. Start shopping guys now and wait for the right offers.
Gravesy Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I think Gorton should listen to offers for every single player on the roster bar Chytil, Pionk, Howden and Andersson. Move as many of them as possible for picks and prospects, provided the offers are good enough. I'd even include Zibanejad in that if the haul is satisfactory.
phillyb Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 McDavid for Kreider and Skjei Lol. You know damn well that?s not what I meant.
Dunny Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 You guys are really set on being awful for a long time, eh?
Vodka Drunkenski Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 ;943414]Lol. You know damn well that?s not what I meant. :cheers:
Vodka Drunkenski Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Trade Chytil while his value is still considered high
josh Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 You guys are really set on being awful for a long time, eh? I soulf have mentioned that I’d trade him for a legit prospect, or an upgrade. Not for a late first and a late 3rd next year.
CBrowningPI Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Trade Chytil while his value is still considered highBreakfast buddies aren't going anywhere. Sent from my SM-N900T using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk
Pete Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 You guys are really set on being awful for a long time, eh?If it sets them up to be good for a long time, sure. As long as it takes.
Phil Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I soulf have mentioned that I?d trade him for a legit prospect, or an upgrade. Not for a late first and a late 3rd next year. I actually think they need to do this across the board. Even on Zucc and Hayes. They need pieces they can plug in as soon as next season. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk
josh Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I actually think they need to do this across the board. Even on Zucc and Hayes. They need pieces they can plug in as soon as next season. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I don’t want another Spooner or Namestnikov, though. Potential top-end talent. Hopefully a team gets desperate at deadline and willing to do it.
Stephen Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 McDavid for Kreider and Skjei Chiarelli might be stupid enough to do it which might help with our forward depth but we need to better at improving that during the draft but that might really help to pick up McJesus
Stephen Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I don’t want another Spooner or Namestnikov, though. Potential top-end talent. Hopefully, a team gets desperate at the deadline and willing to do it. Who might want to do that come to the deadline?
Giacomin Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Kreider for Tolvanen and Fabbro Zuc for Katchouk and Raddyish (LW/RW)
josh Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Who might want to do that come to the deadline? Never know. Between Kreider, Hayes, Zuccarello, Spooner, Namestnikov, Fast, Shattenkirk, McQuaid, Smith... one, maybe a combination of players could provide the secondary scoring or complimentary players that could really help a team Win Now. Toronto, Boston, Winnipeg, Washington, Vegas, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Dallas, California teams I’ve never heard of before, Edmonton. Especially if you are including a guy with a year left on the contract
Stephen Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Never know. Between Kreider, Hayes, Zuccarello, Spooner, Namestnikov, Fast, Shattenkirk, McQuaid, Smith... one, maybe a combination of players could provide the secondary scoring or complimentary players that could really help a team Win Now. Toronto, Boston, Winnipeg, Washington, Vegas, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Dallas, California teams I’ve never heard of before, Edmonton. Especially if you are including a guy with a year left on the contract Watch, he might become a good player once he is traded but another might want to overpay him in free agency
josh Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Watch, he might become a good player once he is traded but another might want to overpay him in free agency We have a great cast of complimentary and depth players. I could see any improving their production in the right situation. But that’s not NYR right now
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