Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 They dont do this for Nash, Grabner, maybe Holden, or Pavelec. Not even for Miller... this is them telling the fans Zuccarello is a goner... he's the only player fans care about that might fit that description. Fuck that's gonna be a sad day... On the positive side, I may get a team to cheer for during this rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 This is was really bugs me or pisses me off about Gortin and Sather. As bas as this team has been playing ( really bad) yet only 3 pts out of the playoffs. So why wave the white flag for the future THAT MAY OR MAY NOT pan out. Last year Nashville was basically the 16th team based on record correct but still made the cup final. Anything can happen and I was taught never to give up and quit which is was these 2 bums are doing. So if they are waving the white flag ( they being Gorting and Sather) we can not be pissed ot AV ( I don't like him or his system) Nashville underachieved the entire season last year, dealt with injuries, and everyone came back and turned it on in the playoffs. Nashville was actually predicted to be one of the top teams in the league last year so it really shouldnt have been a surprise that they made the Stanley Cup Final. The Rangers are no where near what Nashville was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 This is was really bugs me or pisses me off about Gortin and Sather. As bas as this team has been playing ( really bad) yet only 3 pts out of the playoffs. So why wave the white flag for the future THAT MAY OR MAY NOT pan out. Last year Nashville was basically the 16th team based on record correct but still made the cup final. Anything can happen and I was taught never to give up and quit which is was these 2 bums are doing. So if they are waving the white flag ( they being Gorting and Sather) we can not be pissed ot AV ( I don't like him or his system) This was true at the beginning of January - and I argued it as much as anyone. But the players have packed it in completely, the season was over with the TOR loss. Gorton and Sather have no choice. As bad as the East is, a decimated lineup playing well still could, theoretically, get into the playoffs, but their goose is cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The way I look at it is its going to take a miracle to get in at this point and the miracle is probably just as likely to occur with a new mix than with this mix so have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The way I look at it is its going to take a miracle to get in at this point and the miracle is probably just as likely to occur with a new mix than with this mix so have at it. I disagree with everything you say politically but on hockey, you're spot on here! lol A team full of guys battling for a future in the NHL has a better shot of nabbing an 8th seed than a team full of veterans who've given up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 After thinking about it, I think the main reason they sent out that letter to the fans is because Zuccarello is a goner. He's going to be 32 after next season where he will be a free agent. They would either have to sign him to a 5-6 year deal (not worth) to carry him through age 37-38 or watch him walk. Love Zuccarello but he's not quite as good as the fans have made him out to be. A 20 goal scorer one time...and concerned about his game really regressing the next couple of seasons to want to commit long term money. Again, love Zuccarello and his attitude and chippiness he brings to the ice, but he won't be worth the long term deal he'll get at his age summer 2019. Ryan McDonagh is the only other one (besides Hank who is not getting traded) who would give them reason to write that letter, but I don't think they will trade him because even if we rebuild over the next few years, he would still only be 31-32 and most likely still good with plenty of hockey left. He's way better than Marc Staal or Dan Girardi ever were, so personally I don't see that argument as legitimate hesitation to signing him to a 5 or 6 year deal at 30 years old next offseason. He has a lot of value as captain, leader of the team, and a mentor to younger defensemen being brought up. The plan I could see them pursuing is trading Nash, Grabner, Zuccarello, and Holden: - Nash for 1st rounder + NHL ready prospect (more than one team will offer a first, it will be who offers more) - Grabner for 1st rounder + 3rd rounder or middle tier prospect (same as above) - Zuccarello for 1st rounder + prospect + young NHL roster player (roughly) - Holden for 2nd-3rd rounder (2nd might be high, but it seems other teams like him - regardless, anything we get for Holden is just gravy) In the off-season they would try to re-sign Nash and Grabner. They would have essentially the same roster minus Zuccarello, but would have gained a ton of picks/prospects from the trades. It accomplishes both goals of remaining competitive during a rebuild. Call it a 80% full rebuild effort. Potential lineup next season: Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich JT Miller - Chytil? - Nash Vesey - Hayes - Grabner ? - Lettieri? Andersson? - Fast McDonagh - Shattenkirk Skjei - ? Staal? - DeAngelo? The holes may also be filled from the picks, prospects, or players received from the trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Go Rangers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 According yo Bob McKenzie The rangers are basically operating with their roster on a zero sum huger, his words Meaning they are basically floating every player on their roster out there other than hank and seeing if the return for them is more valuable to them then that specific player. He says it’s a totally new way and fascinating way to judge your roster. He says the rangers are trying to determine who they choose to marry themselves too. Do they want to be tied to Hayes, miller, skeij etc long term or are the pieces coming back a better value. Check out his podcast on tsn.ca. To hear it. He also says the only untraceable players are Staal and Shattenkirk. Do much for that bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Follow up letter penned: via Reddit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 New twitter account, who dis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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