Future Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Maybe it's just me, but Raanta is better than all of the goaltenders you mentioned. For long term outlook sure, but you are trying to establish a fan base and have a somewhat not embarrassing product on the ice. Korpisalo or Grubauer maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking for a new backup next year. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I think you'd have a hard time making an argument that Raanta is better than Darling or Grubauer. Both could probably be a number 1 right now. Regardless, Raanta isn't such an upgrade over anybody that he'll make or break whether or not the team is embarrassing. They're probably going to be terrible regardless. But you also have to account for who else the other teams are listing. Is Washington or Chicago going to make a better player available than Holden, Grabner, Fast, Lindberg? I think that's kind of doubtful. Who would you rather have, Raanta and Jay Beagle or Grubauer and Fast? Darling also makes sense because he's a UFA, they can just sign him. Why draft Raanta when you could, potentially, have Darling, Grubauer and Fast? Not to mention other FA goalies. Obviously there are a thousand moving pieces and what-ifs, but I'm just not really seeing where Raanta provides enough value over other goalies to justify passing up on some of the guys the Rangers will be exposing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBiv Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Super bump! Pretty much a full calendar year later. Doesn't anyone like Jesper as I do. No chit chat about him on his thread? Maybe because he is so solid and little bad to talk about. @thirtyONE......was your question answered? Thinking Jesper will be wearing a letter sometime soon. But if he isn't, that's simply because he is too quiet in the LR. (not sure how I would know this) Anyway, I bumped this because I've aways wondered about this. New players come for pre-season Equiptment manager (I suppose) offers each new player a list of available #'s......right? So, we are assuming that when Jesper chose #19, the Rangers had no clue they would do this for Jean? I mean, why was this # even an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EverRangerFrank Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Good idea to bump this thread, Larry. My take on Fast is that he is 1) consistently reliable, 2) not going to hurt you while on the ice, 3) always gives you an honest shift, and 4) every team that has had success has at least one of these guys on their team. I have no problem with him on the roster. Would I like more goals from him? Of course. I also like the way he can fore-check keep other team's scorers off their game and relatively unproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 in my mind he's what i'd call a lunch pail guy. u can plug him anywhere on any of the lines. every team needs guys like him. have to keep him cost controlled however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I've been really considering buying a Jesper Fast jersey Just a hard working guy who can do a little bit of everything, is reliable, and has a history of stepping up in playoff games when it matters. The comeback from 3-1 against Washington doesn't happen without Fast. He was a key factor on both game 5 and game 7 OT goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Voted players' player twice in a row. The players may even know something that posters on this board don't. As for his good plus rating, I can remember many goals on plays in which he did something essential but did not get an assist. Put on an offensive line, I do think he would score somewhat more. I'll never forget the moment when he was sprung on a breakaway in Tampa in the 2015 series. I immediately thought "I glad this is Fast getting the breakaway instead of Nash." Seconds later, he scored. There is absolutely no reason to think about getting rid of him for about 10 years. There is always a spot on the roster for a guy like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Voted players' player twice in a row. The players may even know something that posters on this board don't. As for his good plus rating, I can remember many goals on plays in which he did something essential but did not get an assist. Put on an offensive line, I do think he would score somewhat more. I'll never forget the moment when he was sprung on a breakaway in Tampa in the 2015 series. I immediately thought "I glad this is Fast getting the breakaway instead of Nash." Seconds later, he scored. There is absolutely no reason to think about getting rid of him for about 10 years. There is always a spot on the roster for a guy like this. like this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Super bump! Pretty much a full calendar year later. Doesn't anyone like Jesper as I do. No chit chat about him on his thread? Maybe because he is so solid and little bad to talk about. @thirtyONE......was your question answered? Thinking Jesper will be wearing a letter sometime soon. But if he isn't, that's simply because he is too quiet in the LR. (not sure how I would know this) Anyway, I bumped this because I've aways wondered about this. New players come for pre-season Equiptment manager (I suppose) offers each new player a list of available #'s......right? So, we are assuming that when Jesper chose #19, the Rangers had no clue they would do this for Jean? I mean, why was this # even an option? He switched to 17 in the off-season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 EXACTLY! Watch any replay on a goal on which he did not get an assist and chances are you will see him creating a turnover 15 seconds earlier, or stopping an opponent from creating a turnover, or some crafty board work, or, as in the video above, turning an indecisive face-off into a won draw. If I were in the market for a personalized Rangers jersey, I get one of his. BTW, 6:00 clip of that replay is a still a little too short. Need to find one where the goal is played a few more times (just can't get enough of Holtbe's dying dive, looks like he was shot). Like that rare song that you just never get sick off no matter how many times you have heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 EXACTLY! Watch any replay on a goal on which he did not get an assist and chances are you will see him creating a turnover 15 seconds earlier, or stopping an opponent from creating a turnover, or some crafty board work, or, as in the video above, turning an indecisive face-off into a won draw. This is true for most goals though. Someone had to get the puck, somewhere lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Whats with the Fast love fest? Hes alright. Id have traded him for a 3rd rounder if it were on the table at the deadline. Hes not exactly an essential part of a team. I guess as a pk specialist, but otherwise, hes not much more special than any other 4th liner. He can't slot up in a scoring role. If he could, the Rangers would have done so years ago, solving scoring depth issues. He is what he is. An undersized fourth liner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Whats with the Fast love fest? Hes alright. Id have traded him for a 3rd rounder if it were on the table at the deadline. Hes not exactly an essential part of a team. I guess as a pk specialist, but otherwise, hes not much more special than any other 4th liner. He can't slot up in a scoring role. If he could, the Rangers would have done so years ago, solving scoring depth issues. He is what he is. An undersized fourth liner... This. He's fine... But being "able to slot up" means that the team just isn't that good. I'd love to have some legit 1st and 2nd liners so Fast can play his role in the bottom 6, killing penalties, and trying hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Whats with the Fast love fest? Hes alright. Id have traded him for a 3rd rounder if it were on the table at the deadline. Hes not exactly an essential part of a team. I guess as a pk specialist, but otherwise, hes not much more special than any other 4th liner. He can't slot up in a scoring role. If he could, the Rangers would have done so years ago, solving scoring depth issues. He is what he is. An undersized fourth liner... obviously he's no star or anything, but he fills his role as well as anyone else we would reasonably get for it, and he's signed to a very reasonable salary with a few years left. No need to trade him just a pick and open up a hole on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I had a dream I assisted to Fast on a goal. Felt so real, thought the score of last night's game was 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hot sauce is a hell of a drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 obviously he's no star or anything, but he fills his role as well as anyone else we would reasonably get for it, and he's signed to a very reasonable salary with a few years left. No need to trade him just a pick and open up a hole on the roster So is Paul Carey... Do we need to latch on to these 4th liners because they do 4th line things well? I don't know. Always feel people give him too much credit for being what he is. Every team has a Fast and it seems like the cupboard is filled with similar types. I don't know why it bothers me. Not a big deal. There are worse players that have been propped up and overvalued. They just dealt one in Miller, whom I felt got the same treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I seriously doubt any NHL scouts would lump Fast in with Paul Carey. There is a reason that so many people, including the coach and the players who vote him player's player, gush about Fast while Carey will be sniffing around for a tryout contract over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I like him. Good 3rd/4th liner. Not brilliant or anything even approaching it, but maximum effort every night and probably fucking annoying to play against. Like having a wasp in your car. The Fast/Hayes/Spooner line has something about it imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I seriously doubt any NHL scouts would lump Fast in with Paul Carey. There is a reason that so many people, including the coach and the players who vote him player's player, gush about Fast while Carey will be sniffing around for a tryout contract over the summer. Nor would they gush about Fast. Just not all in on Fast. Take him or leave him. Not sure he makes a difference or if he's supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 obviously he's no star or anything, but he fills his role as well as anyone else we would reasonably get for it, and he's signed to a very reasonable salary with a few years left. No need to trade him just a pick and open up a hole on the roster This. I like his speed, his hustle, his PK/defensive abilities (most of the time). Seems to have decent hockey IQ. Hot sauce is a hell of a drug. Pass the cayenne Pete. Too much snow ... imma ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 He fits his role,but will his cap hit in the near future ruin his role on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBiv Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 He switched to 17 in the off-season... I know, now he'll have to switch when they retire Tkaczuk to the rafters. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBiv Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 He fits his role,but will his cap hit in the near future ruin his role on the team Isn't that kind of how we ended up losing Hags? I mean, he is no Hags but I dunno.....someday he will deserve a decent raise {maybe around 2.5 to 3 mil per. For 5 years? I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I don't get why anyone has a problem wit the guy. He plays a good defensive game. He isn't flashy, but that isn't his role. His role is to be a defensive forward that can play any big defensive situation. he rarely makes a mistake, he is just one of those unsung heroes. He is smart with the puck, and he is very reliable and can pop a goal in her and there. He is exactly what you want n a defensive forward, and very far off from what Paul Carey is and brings to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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