BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I really hope Fast plays in the playoffs the way he played in 2015. He has shown he can step up when needed more than the other 4th line type guys we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 There are better and younger options than Raanta despite how good he's been. Grubauer will definitely be one of the picks for Vegas. Probably Calvin Pickard if Colorado chooses to protect Varlamov, but I could even see Varlamov being selected if they think he can overcome his injury struggles. One of Fast, Grabner or Lindberg definitely goes. Certainly. Raanta is about the 5th most attractive guy that we'll have to expose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger11 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Those are some good points you bring up about our bottom lines against Montreal. As far as what you said about Fast, I couldn't have said it any better myself. It's funny how many fans dislike a player unless they're scoring goals. It seems like nobody ever looks things like back checking, breaking up passes or helping out on a face off when nobody has cleanly won it and the puck is still hanging around. I think Fast is a scrappy yet smart player that does all the little things that help create scoring chances or keep those plays alive. He's willing to do whatever he has to do to help the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Frankly, I can't wait to see a 4th line of Fast-Lind- (Grabner/Vesey/Buch) skate circles around that slow goonish 4th line the Habs put together at the deadline. The 3rd and 4th lines can make a huge difference in the playoffs, where there can be wider mismatches in talent and speed. If we have our top 12 forward healthy for the playoffs, I expect our bottom six to dominate. Me too. But I bet AV puts Glass on that line lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Sorry I missed this thread earlier. I'm really dumbfounded by it. Fast is one of the more valuable contracts on the team. He's a 25-30 point 3rd/4th line tweener. He's one of our most trustworthy forwards defensively on the team, very rarely turns the puck over in our zone. He has good quickness on the puck offensively to disrupt plays, is a decent passer and is great at deflecting point shots. He doesn't take bad penalties. He makes less than $1M against the cap and is still an RFA once the contract is up after this year. He's also the guy you put out at the end of the game protecting a one goal lead. In fact, when AV has shortened the bench late in games to protect a lead, it's always Fast that slots up while Vesey or Buchnevich find themselves on the bench. As a constant critic of AV's in-game coaching strategies, that is one thing he gets consistently right. I'm just not sure what there is to not like here, or to argue that Pirri or Puempel specifically deserve to be in the lineup over him. Neither Pirri (.32 P/GP) nor Puempel (.36 P/GP) have so clearly out produce Fast (.31 P/GP) that you could consider putting them in over him when you also factor in their deficiencies in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Sorry I missed this thread earlier. I'm really dumbfounded by it. Fast is one of the more valuable contracts on the team. He's a 25-30 point 3rd/4th line tweener. He's one of our most trustworthy forwards defensively on the team, very rarely turns the puck over in our zone. He has good quickness on the puck offensively to disrupt plays, is a decent passer and is great at deflecting point shots. He doesn't take bad penalties. He makes less than $1M against the cap and is still an RFA once the contract is up after this year. He's also the guy you put out at the end of the game protecting a one goal lead. In fact, when AV has shortened the bench late in games to protect a lead, it's always Fast that slots up while Vesey or Buchnevich find themselves on the bench. As a constant critic of AV's in-game coaching strategies, that is one thing he gets consistently right. I'm just not sure what there is to not like here, or to argue that Pirri or Puempel specifically deserve to be in the lineup over him. Neither Pirri (.32 P/GP) nor Puempel (.36 P/GP) have so clearly out produce Fast (.31 P/GP) that you could consider putting them in over him when you also consider their deficiencies in other areas. Great point with AV giving him more ice time late for the rookies. Fast is very important especially with a favorable contract. Great post AJ #MakeBSBHGreatAgain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Well... in comparison he also gets tons of D zone starts, primary PKer, no PP, important final minute action and relieves Vesey or Buch in 3rd periods with the lead. Thanks Drunkski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Into the bargain, he's really " Fast ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 If they sit Fast they can slot Miller down and get Glass 17 minutes a night with Zib and Nash. I like it. Not enough glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The last several minutes of this Montreal-Rangers game shows perfectly what Jesper Fast does so well Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetchy2 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The last several minutes of this Montreal-Rangers game shows perfectly what Jesper Fast does so well Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Exactly this. Fast was outstanding down the stretch in game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 Welp. I'm an idiot, huh? I'd like to clear my conscious by saying I was dead wrong about Fast and the 4th line in general. They were our most consistent line against Montreal. I'm not sure what happened between regular season (where I didn't think they were all that useful) and playoffs where they became the line I wanted on the ice the most. I'd like to think the addition of Grabner helped but Fast and Lindberg were awesome, no doubt about it. Funny how when AV returns to the lines he used at the beginning of the season -- when the Rangers were kicking the most ass -- they suddenly look like a dangerous team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Played a fantastic series. Blocked a Shea Weber shot like it was nothing. He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 You're not an idiot, no. The playoffs are where quality forth liners and depth players are born. Max Talbot. Brian Boyle. Ruslan Fedotenko, Dominic Moore, etc. Fast appears to be another in the making. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 just an unsung guy that does so much. like an offensive lineman. you don't notice him until he gets called for the hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Answer is: E*V*E*R*Y*T*H*I*N*G asked including the occasional goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I kind of wish he wasn't playing as well as he has been because I think he is the guy Las Vegas will grab for us. Its gonna hurt to lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think we have to protect him if there's a way. But … I have no idea of what the calculus is as far as who else gets exposed if Fast is protected? Anyone got a handy-dandy up-to-date list of options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think we have to protect him if there's a way. But ? I have no idea of what the calculus is as far as who else gets exposed if Fast is protected? Anyone got a handy-dandy up-to-date list of options? Klein, Holden, Grabner, and Raanta all would be available more than likely, and offer more than Fast for a team that will rely on defense and goaltending to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Klein, Holden, Grabner, and Raanta all would be available more than likely, and offer more than Fast for a team that will rely on defense and goaltending to be competitive. Klein is a UFA and, if Vegas is going to be a defensive team, then Fast should be their top target. There's going to be a dozen Holdens available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Klein is a UFA and, if Vegas is going to be a defensive team, then Fast should be their top target. There's going to be a dozen Holdens available. Klein still has 1 more year on his deal, but I agree that if Vegas is going the defnsive route, then Fast is the perfect candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Klein still has 1 more year on his deal, but I agree that if Vegas is going the defnsive route, then Fast is the perfect candidate. Ope, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think it'll be Grabner or Raanta. Raanta will be a candidate to be their starter, if not a fantastic backup to try and steal games for a developing team. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I think it'll be Grabner or Raanta. Raanta will be a candidate to be their starter, if not a fantastic backup to try and steal games for a developing team. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I think Grabner is a lot more likely than Raanta. There are so many goalies available (Grubauer, Korpisalo, Pickard, Darling, Kuemper) who provide the same presence as Raanta with potentially higher long-term upside, I just have a hard time seeing Raanta being their pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Maybe it's just me, but Raanta is better than all of the goaltenders you mentioned. For long term outlook sure, but you are trying to establish a fan base and have a somewhat not embarrassing product on the ice. Korpisalo or Grubauer maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking for a new backup next year. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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