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    Quote Originally Posted by siddious View Post
    what the hell.. does slats look younger?
    It's a wax figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCCP View Post
    nice suit
    I'm jealous of that head of hair.

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    For anyone who wants to watch the "full" presser:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Roster players that spent time in Hartford/Connecticut:
    Chris Kreider
    Filip Chytil
    Ryan Lindgren
    Igor Shesterkin
    Alex Georgiev
    Libor Hajek
    Vitali Kravtsov
    Phil Di Giuseppe

    Roster players that went from amateur to pro:
    Alexis Lafreniere
    Kaapo Kakko
    Adam Fox
    Zac Jones
    K'Andre Miller
    Pavel Buchnevich (4 game AHL stint)
    Brett Howden

    Roster players from trades/free agency
    Artemi Panarin
    Mika Zibanejad
    Ryan Strome
    Colin Blackwell
    Kevin Rooney
    Jacob Trouba
    Brendan Smith
    Julien Gauthier

    So about 2/3rds of our roster was either drafted and came directly to the NHL (no need for AHL) or spent some time in the AHL. What's your problem again?
    You're lost. Was Drury the GM of Hartford when Kreider was there?

    Chytil was there 2 weeks as punishment
    Georgiev stinks
    You and others shit on Hajek daily
    Kravstov ran home from Hartford
    Di Giuseppe is crap
    Shestyorkin HAD to play there and was dominant before going there
    I'll give ya Lindgren

    You're absolutely right to ask me what my problem is, because you obviously didn't get the point. Drury was the GM for Hartford and Hartford has fucking sucked.

    Someone pointed out the Packs record this year in an effort to claim they haven't sucked as if a 20 something game season is anything to gauge them on. Nevermind that the only future Rangers on the roster are Barron and maybe Reunenen.
    Drury is given credit for being this whiz and they use Hartford as a gauge/accomplishment, when in fact the team hasn't been winning and it scared 2 prospects away do badly they left for their home countries.
    Get it? .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    I'm jealous of that head of hair.
    Tell me about.

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    Rangers Fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton; Drury Named President & GM

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    You're lost. Was Drury the GM of Hartford when Kreider was there?

    Chytil was there 2 weeks as punishment
    Georgiev stinks
    You and others shit on Hajek daily
    Kravstov ran home from Hartford
    Di Giuseppe is crap
    Shestyorkin HAD to play there and was dominant before going there
    I'll give ya Lindgren

    You're absolutely right to ask me what my problem is, because you obviously didn't get the point. Drury was the GM for Hartford and Hartford has fucking sucked.

    Someone pointed out the Packs record this year in an effort to claim they haven't sucked as if a 20 something game season is anything to gauge them on. Nevermind that the only future Rangers on the roster are Barron and maybe Reunenen.
    Drury is given credit for being this whiz and they use Hartford as a gauge/accomplishment, when in fact the team hasn't been winning and it scared 2 prospects away do badly they left for their home countries.
    Get it? .
    The fuck is he supposed to do, sign free agents and draft guys? Discussing it with you is a waste of time. Itís not a tier II team that makes its own moves. Itís a bigger issue than ďDrury ruined Hartford and destroyed the players that went thereĒ


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    I'm jealous of that head of hair.
    Slats has always been well gifted in the hair department.

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    The one good thing about all this is now Jeff Gorton can spend more time with his CABBAGE patch family.
    Last edited by CBrowningPI; 05-07-2021 at 01:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    The fuck is he supposed to do, sign free agents and draft guys? Discussing it with you is a waste of time. It’s not a tier II team that makes its own moves. It’s a bigger issue than “Drury ruined Hartford and destroyed the players that went there”


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    Why have a GM for the AHL team and then why FUCKING CREDIT HIM FOR BEING THE GM WHO CANT FUCKING DO ANYTHING????

    Has that sunk in yet?

    You are seriously missing the boat and seem to just want to argue.

    Why/ how can you get pissy on my take on this when you've done nothing but add to my point, which IF YOU FUCKING READ says nothing about him ruining anything. Just that there's nothing to credit him for as far as Hartford goes. It's not like he signed minor league diamonds in the rough. Why is Hartford part of his resume if he didn't do anything good or bad????? You say he did NOTHING! So? This helps you how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    The one good thing about all this is now Jeff Gordon can spend more time with his sour patch family.
    Won't Jeff Gordon do laps around Daytona?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Why have a GM for the AHL team and then why FUCKING CREDIT HIM FOR BEING THE GM WHO CANT FUCKING DO ANYTHING????

    Has that sunk in yet?

    You are seriously missing the boat and seem to just want to argue.

    Why/ how can you get pissy on my take on this when you've done nothing but add to my point, which IF YOU FUCKING READ says nothing about him ruining anything. Just that there's nothing to credit him for as far as Hartford goes. It's not like he signed minor league diamonds in the rough. Why is Hartford part of his resume if he didn't do anything good or bad????? You say he did NOTHING! So? This helps you how?
    Weíre both wrong though. He didnít do anything to progress Hartford (your point), but he didnít do anything to make it bad or a bottomless pit for prospectsí careers to die in (my point). I wasnít so much against your overall message more than how you went about supporting it. Heís been groomed for this job for several seasons. I think getting his feet wet in the AHL helped him progress to the NHL. Time will tell if he can handle the show himself. Everyone speaks highly of him. I can only hope heís not Dolanís yes man


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    Gorton’s legacy is going to be interesting eventually. He started and did the dirty work of the tear-down and buildup. Gorton stole Mika Zibanejad and Adam Fox, signed Artemi Panarin and had nine first-round picks (four of their own and five added) in the last four drafts, after the Rangers went four years without a first-round pick. It’s absolutely cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs that he lost his job at this point.
    Some interesting bluntness from Carp here.

    Since the story I published earlier, I have heard from a conflicting source about whether Dolan was angry at Gorton for not making a deadline trade. Indeed, I was told, Gorton came pretty close to making a significant hockey deal, for a legit player, not a rental, but a team backed out. I have also been told that Sather, though front and center Thursday (and involved throughout Wednesday’s crazy day), is not getting back into any kind of major role. Nor does he, at age 77, want to. As an advisor to Drury, he can be valuable. If he wants to run the Rangers from behind the scenes, that’s dangerous, in my opinion. But apparently he doesn’t want to do that.
    How's that for a raised eyebrow situation?

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    If Sather doesn't want to be involved in any major role, why have him in the first press conference with the new GM and president? Some things about how this team is run really has me questioning things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    Since the story I published earlier, I have heard from a conflicting source about whether Dolan was angry at Gorton for not making a deadline trade. Indeed, I was told, Gorton came pretty close to making a significant hockey deal, for a legit player, not a rental, but a team backed out. I have also been told that Sather, though front and center Thursday (and involved throughout Wednesday’s crazy day), is not getting back into any kind of major role. Nor does he, at age 77, want to. As an advisor to Drury, he can be valuable. If he wants to run the Rangers from behind the scenes, that’s dangerous, in my opinion. But apparently he doesn’t want to do that. /[/url]
    I'd love to know who the player was and was the potential makeup of the trade.

    I hope to God Sather isn't pulling Drury's strings and running the team because if that's the case I can see Drury stepping away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morphinity View Post
    If Sather doesn't want to be involved in any major role, why have him in the first press conference with the new GM and president? Some things about how this team is run really has me questioning things...
    Optics to reassure the wider audience that the reigns aren't being handed to an inexperienced rookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Optics to reassure the wider audience that the reigns aren't being handed to an inexperienced rookie.
    Or, instill doubt in those who don't have much faith in the Sather way of doing things.

    This team has been under the same regime, effectively, since 2000. Sather groomed Gorton and Gorton groomed Drury. Gordie Clark has been here since 2002! Sather has been involved the entire time, to some capacity. Other teams don't have this level of continuity from one front office to the next. Sometimes, I just wish we could cut ties entirely and bring in a new staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morphinity View Post
    Or, instill doubt in those who don't have much faith in the Sather way of doing things.

    This team has been under the same regime, effectively, since 2000. Sather groomed Gorton and Gorton groomed Drury. Gordie Clark has been here since 2002! Sather has been involved the entire time, to some capacity. Other teams don't have this level of continuity from one front office to the next. Sometimes, I just wish we could cut ties entirely and bring in a new staff.
    Sure, but that's never going to happen unless Dolan dies. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpshooter View Post
    A friend and I were discussing last night how this whole thing had been planned and this situation was just used as a front for going through with it. It's a tangible theory.
    Certainly a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    The one good thing about all this is now Jeff Gorton can spend more time with his sour patch family.
    I'm a complete moron. Not sour patch family, it was supposed to be Cabbage Patch family. Because Gorton looks like a Cabbage patch kid, you know, in the face. Jaysus, I may need to retire.
    Last edited by CBrowningPI; 05-07-2021 at 01:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpshooter View Post
    A friend and I were discussing last night how this whole thing had been planned and this situation was just used as a front for going through with it. It's a tangible theory.
    I don't know if "a front" is a good word for it, but I think the Wilson stuff and the statement blowback was what sped things along to the point they're firing the GM and Prez with 3 games left in the season. If that doesn't happen, you probably see it happen after about a week or so.

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