Phil Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Amazing. Well worth the entire watch. Especially for the "wrestling isn't real" crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 A great video, from a great director, about my favourite wrestler. I've watched this like 10x since it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseCrusader91 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 That was amazing. Thanks for posting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 How in the world does this happen? Tragic news out of Mexico as Asistencia Asesoria y Administracion wrestler Pedro Aguayo Ramirez (better known as Hijo del Perro Aguayo) died Friday night in Tijuana while taking part in a tag-team match with former WWE performer Rey Mysterio. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-turnstile/mexican-wrestler-dies-following-match-with-ex-wwe-superstar-rey-mysterio-192735547.html [video=youtube;N5UoRG-QuiY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Ramirez took a spinning head scissors from Mysterio during the match, got back into the ring, and then took a dropkick to setup a 619 from Mysterio. At this time, the cause of death appears to be from a snapped vertebrae when Aguayo’s head landed on the ropes following the dropkick. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/563093-el-hijo-del-perro-aguayo-death-manslaughter -- There are also reports he may have suffered a stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Appears to be, but I think that he actually hurts himself doing the summersault prior to the flop outside of the ring. When he lands the simple maneuver - he struggles to get up - and from there it only gets compounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 so wrestle mania tonight Prediction,Heyman turns on Lesnar costing him the title and he aligns with Reigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Decided to start watching Wrestlemania mid Sting/HHH, saw the shitty end with Sting losing, heard JBL say "...and the right side won again" and immediately turned it off. If this doesn't effectively sum up why I despise this company, I don't know what does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Decided to start watching Wrestlemania mid Sting/HHH' date=' saw the shitty end with Sting losing, heard JBL say "...and the right side won again" and immediately turned it off. If this doesn't effectively sum up why I despise this company, I don't know what does.[/quote'] It was a great match up until the end, JBL needs to be smacked. The IC ladder match was a good one. Not sure I'll stay up for the rest of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I had no intention of watching it very long anyway. Walking Dead season finale is tonight. But I figured I'd tune in for a bit. Bad choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 That will be the next show I start. Season 2 of SOA...D O N E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Wrestlemania was incredible. Not in the top 5, admittedly, but absolutely in the top 10 of all time. Well done WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 It was good surprisingly. The ending to the HHH and sting match was stupid. I like the idea of bringing out DX and nWo but don't like the idea how it played out like Phil made reference to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'll just leave this here. Also, the nWo was kind of stupid, logically speaking. Sting went to war with them for longer than he was allies with them. In fact, it's considered the greatest story ever told in WCW history — Sting, the WCW crusader, versus Hogan, the nWo invader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 During today’s WWE conference call hosted by Vince McMahon, during the Q&A segment of the call, Vince said one of the reasons why they brought Sting into the company is due to the marketing power of WWE. He said they were able to take Sting “out of obscurity” and make him a major attraction. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/566877-vince-says-wwe-took-sting-out-of-obscurity -- Nothing says "Thanks, Sting" like "you should be thanking us for saving you from obscurity!" Instead of the high road answer that writes itself — "because he's one of the greatest in the history of the industry and we saw an opportunity to give him his Wrestlemania moment — something he deserved, something we owed him — as a thank you for all his years of service to our wonderful fans..." we get this pot shot bullshit. Again. I'm surprised Vince didn't break his own arm patting himself that hard on his own back. It never ceases to amaze me the level of arrogance and pretentiousness that surround the decision-makers in that company. If you ever wanted a lesson, first-hand, on why the relentless "brand" bullshit and rhetoric like "WWE rejects" exists and thrives to this day, quotes like this explain it perfectly. Come home, Sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'll just leave this here. Also' date=' the nWo was kind of stupid, logically speaking. Sting went to war with them for longer than he was allies with them. In fact, it's considered the greatest story ever told in WCW history — Sting, the WCW crusader, versus Hogan, the nWo invader.[/quote'] I was actually hoping they were going to turn on sting, that's the ending I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 To set up for a revenge match? That'd have made a lot more sense. But still would probably have been too much. Dunno if you were watching TNA then, but they had a match like that with Styles when he dropped the title to Magnus, and Magnus had like 38 guys come in, one after the other to run interference just to get the pin on him. It made Magnus look like a fuckin' joke. Took him a solid year to recover from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/566877-vince-says-wwe-took-sting-out-of-obscurity -- Nothing says "Thanks' date=' Sting" like "you should be thanking us for saving you from obscurity!" Instead of the high road answer that writes itself — "because he's one of the greatest in the history of the industry and we saw an opportunity to give him his Wrestlemania moment — something he deserved, something we owed him — as a thank you for all his years of service to our wonderful fans..." we get this pot shot bullshit. Again. I'm surprised Vince didn't break his own arm patting himself that hard on his own back. It never ceases to amaze me the level of arrogance and pretentiousness that surround the decision-makers in that company. If you ever wanted a lesson, first-hand, on why the relentless "brand" bullshit and rhetoric like "WWE rejects" exists and thrives to this day, quotes like this explain it perfectly. Come home, Sting.[/quote'] But what's home at this point, really? Wrestling is a dying sport IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 To set up for a revenge match? That'd have made a lot more sense. But still would probably have been too much. Dunno if you were watching TNA then' date=' but they had a match like that with Styles when he dropped the title to Magnus, and Magnus had like 38 guys come in, one after the other to run interference just to get the pin on him. It made Magnus look like a fuckin' joke. Took him a solid year to recover from it.[/quote'] I actually haven't been paying attention to wrestling for the most part. The only reason I tuned to wrestle mania was to see how sting would be used. The whole DX/nWo thing threw me off, in a good way until they didn't turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 But what's home at this point, really? Wrestling is a dying sport IMO. The place he spent more than a decade at before making this jump that's still in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The place he spent more than a decade at before making this jump that's still in business. But my point is that I don't think they will be around much longer, I see WWE falling out of sky too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 WWE is never going out of business. At worst, like TNA, they'll scale their model back to operate within a financial bubble that leaves them in the black. TNA signed a two-year deal with Destination America, so they're in business at least another year, if not longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Paul Heyman was born with a mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseCrusader91 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/566877-vince-says-wwe-took-sting-out-of-obscurity -- Nothing says "Thanks, Sting" like "you should be thanking us for saving you from obscurity!" Instead of the high road answer that writes itself — "because he's one of the greatest in the history of the industry and we saw an opportunity to give him his Wrestlemania moment — something he deserved, something we owed him — as a thank you for all his years of service to our wonderful fans..." we get this pot shot bullshit. Again. I'm surprised Vince didn't break his own arm patting himself that hard on his own back. It never ceases to amaze me the level of arrogance and pretentiousness that surround the decision-makers in that company. If you ever wanted a lesson, first-hand, on why the relentless "brand" bullshit and rhetoric like "WWE rejects" exists and thrives to this day, quotes like this explain it perfectly. Come home, Sting. Yeah, even if they want to ignore his WCW stuff, he was a very influential guy during the NWA and Jim Crockett days. But yeah McMahon is arrogant because Sting was one of the biggest draws in wrestling period. At the height of the Monday Night Wars, people were more interested in guys like Sting than The Rock, Stone Cold and a number of the other major guys the WWF had at the time. The fact that he was able to be such a decisive and interesting character without speaking in a time where cutting promos were the new big thing to do is amazing. To me, I look at Sting a lot like I look at Chris Jericho for the most part as a truly underrated worker who doesn't get the total credit he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Jericho is one of the few "WCW guys" who didn't get utterly shit on when he went to WWE, probably because he jumped earlier and wasn't subject to that fucking horrible invasion angle. Yet guys with built-in equity like Goldberg, Steiner, DDP and Booker T all ended up getting rung out like wet mops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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