[brooks] Rangers Have Crucial Decisions to Make with Influx of Young Defensemen

If I were Smith, I'd be signing elsewhere, where I had some relative assurance that I had a spot as a third unit regular. He's been pretty good this year, with his contract up and his NHL career in the balance. If he get's a two or three year deal, and knows it is probably his last NHL contract, will he be as good? I sure didn't like what I saw last time he had a new contract in hand. Bitteto as an insurance policy at $735K for one more year may represent better cap management than Smith at $1.5 or even 2.0 per for two.

Smith should play the market a bit if he really wants term, but I think saying we've got a 1.3-ish range 1-2 year deal for him on the table to be a 6th/7th and spend a good deal of time coaching the kids is a hell of a backup plan.

Well DeAngelo was willing to play the left and had just put up how many points last year? There's a small gap of proven productivity who you have to resign or trade, vs your top offensive D man prospect. Lundkvist may be a two way Dman in in the Swedish league. But that usually translates to offensive D man in the NHL, especially at his size.

 

As for your D pairings... well YEAH... So where's Jones?

 

With Lundkvist not signed, I think the Rangers need to guarantee him a spot in the NHL to get him to sign. I guess if Jones impresses they could both be on the roster and you walk away from Smith.. But that makes the team unbelievably soft until Schneider and Robertson get here in a year or two or three...

 

Overall I'm just hoping this early signing isn't smoke and mirrors to cover up a possibility that Lundkvist may indeed hold out and become a UFA. If he's that good, that might very well be his plan. He could go wherever he wants.. Someone will give him a top 4 spot in this league. He's going to come here for 3rd pair minutes?

Ideally?

Miller - Fox

Jones - Schneider

Robertson - Lundkvist

But that's about 3 years away.

For next year

Lindgren - Fox

Miller - Lundkvist

Jones - Trouba

Smith is the 7th D. Schneider starts the year in the AHL.

I just really don't see that happening.

 

It's very "Rangers" that the 2 contracts they might like to be out of the most are guys they never would have signed if they really knew what they had or what was coming. IMO, They aren't doing that Trouba deal or the Kreider deal if they knew what they had in Fox and that they'd get Laf.

Totally agree.

If they knew either of those things it’s a very strong bet that Trouba and/or Kreider would not be here.

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It is a great problem to have but no way do you trade Miller. That guy is going to be a lockdown defensive for years to come. He has impressed me so much.

My wish:

 

Miller/Fox

Jones/Schneider

Robertson/Lundkvist

I like this ^^

I'm keeping Lindgren! Dude is a warrior!

I like Lindgren, I just think he's gonna spontaneously fall apart one day like Cally. He takes a beating.

I like Lindgren, I just think he's gonna spontaneously fall apart one day like Cally. He takes a beating.

That's my guy back there though, King....gotta have a competitor like him in there. He's a driver of this bus! ;)

Weird thing to hear coming from the biggest ADA supporter around.

 

Lunkvist plays well over 20 minutes a night. He's not an offensive specialist. Even if he was, you'd still have some combo of Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Trouba, Schneider, and Robertson rounding out you D corps.

 

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Strange why someone's support of ADA is brought into this. Is this an open invitation to relitigate how stupid it was to lose him for nothing? I wouldn't think so. But the point is out there. Having multiple offensive defenseman is not a problem. Having multiple offensive defenseman doesn't mean you give one away for nothing because you have another. An asset is an asset. The Rangers are in a great spot hopefully they manage these assets better than they managed ADA.

I just really don't see that happening.

 

It's very "Rangers" that the 2 contracts they might like to be out of the most are guys they never would have signed if they really knew what they had or what was coming. IMO, They aren't doing that Trouba deal or the Kreider deal if they knew what they had in Fox and that they'd get Laf.

What's else is typically the Rangers most recent contracts are always terrible. The defense has been a revolving door of buyouts. Almost immediate regret after signing the contracts. One ounce of patience would have saved them but they just can't help themselves. Much of what will lead them to Eichel.

What's else is typically the Rangers most recent contracts are always terrible. The defense has been a revolving door of buyouts. Almost immediate regret after signing the contracts. One ounce of patience would have saved them but they just can't help themselves. Much of what will lead them to Eichel.

That is what I am worried about.

That is what I am worried about.

Same, and I fear they will overpay for him as well.

Same, and I fear they will overpay for him as well.

Worlds biggest and greatest city and they over pay for every marquee player they get.

Ill never understand this. I know NYC is expensive but if most of us who arent making millions can make it I am sure professional athletes can too if they want to be here.

Strange why someone's support of ADA is brought into this. Is this an open invitation to relitigate how stupid it was to lose him for nothing? I wouldn't think so. But the point is out there. Having multiple offensive defenseman is not a problem. Having multiple offensive defenseman doesn't mean you give one away for nothing because you have another. An asset is an asset. The Rangers are in a great spot hopefully they manage these assets better than they managed ADA.

How is it strange? I'm not relitigating anything; however, it's quite ironic when 5'11 180 pound doesn't play a like of defense DeAngelo's biggest supporter makes the comment "Both play the same game. Undersized and offensive minded. Do they need that many offensive minded smallish D men?"

What's else is typically the Rangers most recent contracts are always terrible. The defense has been a revolving door of buyouts. Almost immediate regret after signing the contracts. One ounce of patience would have saved them but they just can't help themselves. Much of what will lead them to Eichel.

This, this, and this. Hopefully Gorton knows that with his success at compiling a stable of young studs, he is going to have to create a sense that everybody is making sacrifices to keep a contending team together. That means he's going to have wash a few people's cars and pick up their dry cleaning as he tries to explain how Trouba happened in the same breath he tells them they'll have to take less $$. (Ok, it's hard not to mention.) Bread, he won't have to explain because Panarin took less than he could have AND is worth more than he's getting.

Ok, here's my crazy thought of the day....brought to us by Jagermeister of course:

With the way the game is changing and the fact that we have an influx of promising defenseman, maybe we could run with 7 defenseman and let a offensive defenseman like Cam Jones or Lundqvist play wing at some points like Brendan Smith has in the past.

I dunno, just a thought.

Ideally?

 

Miller - Fox

Jones - Schneider

Robertson - Lundkvist

 

But that's about 3 years away.

 

For next year

 

Lindgren - Fox

Miller - Lundkvist

Jones - Trouba

 

Smith is the 7th D. Schneider starts the year in the AHL.

Yup I agree.

Bet that both Robertson and Schneider play in Hartford, but available for injury call-ups; and then Gorton & Co. decide who you deal for what. Hajek likely gets dealt in the off season for a pick or spare part.

How is it strange? I'm not relitigating anything; however, it's quite ironic when 5'11 180 pound doesn't play a like of defense DeAngelo's biggest supporter makes the comment "Both play the same game. Undersized and offensive minded. Do they need that many offensive minded smallish D men?"

What's strange is that you bring it up here. For what purpose but to troll? Nothing good is coming from your comment. IT's a dig at a member here for past arguments that have obviously derailed multiple threads. I'm sure nobody here wants to start talking about why the let ADA go again for nothing, right? So why muddy the water here? Just leave it alone.

What's strange is that you bring it up here. For what purpose but to troll? Nothing good is coming from your comment. IT's a dig at a member here for past arguments that have obviously derailed multiple threads. I'm sure nobody here wants to start talking about why the let ADA go again for nothing, right? So why muddy the water here? Just leave it alone.

I was simply curious why someone who historically campaigned for ADA on the 1st pair is now concerned about having too many undersized offensive dman.

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Yup I agree.

 

Bet that both Robertson and Schneider play in Hartford, but available for injury call-ups; and then Gorton & Co. decide who you deal for what. Hajek likely gets dealt in the off season for a pick or spare part.

Hajek strikes me as a "my failing prospect for yours" type.

Ideally?

 

Miller - Fox

Jones - Schneider

Robertson - Lundkvist

 

But that's about 3 years away.

 

For next year

 

Lindgren - Fox

Miller - Lundkvist

Jones - Trouba

 

Smith is the 7th D. Schneider starts the year in the AHL.

Troupa as sixth defenseman:disappointed:

Troupa as sixth defenseman:disappointed:

You're the only one talking about why ADA was let go.

 

I was simply curious why someone who historically campaigned for ADA on the 1st pair is now concerned about having too many undersized offensive dman.

 

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Who cares? You were trolling, end of story. I can careless why ADA was let go. It may be lost to you that ADA while undersized never played that way. In fact he was always a player who stood up for his teammates, and I believe he knocked out Okposo in a fight. Maybe that's why it didn't matter to him?

Ideally?

 

Miller - Fox

Jones - Schneider

Robertson - Lundkvist

 

But that's about 3 years away.

 

For next year

 

Lindgren - Fox

Miller - Lundkvist

Jones - Trouba

 

Smith is the 7th D. Schneider starts the year in the AHL.

Yeah? You walk away from Lindgren? Nah. Guys the next captain. Gotta have veteran presence out there along with his grit.

I guess I have to see Jones in action if you'd rather have him over Lindgren AND slot him AND Schneider over Lundkvist.

This desire from Ranger fans to constantly turn the roster over just to keep getting younger, needs to come to a climax and stop somewhere.

That's your opinion though, so I'm not going to knock it. I myself would rather deal Jones in a package for grit along the bottom 6, and figure out what to do with Trouba vs Lundkvist, if it even gets to that point as well as seeing if Schneider and or Robertson are the real deal. Not all of these guys are going to make it, so I'm not planning much ahead nor am I holding onto all of these prospects. Hiw much younger do they have to be? It's time to put the other foot forward. Obviously they have to make good choices, but some of them have to go and soon.

Ok, here's my crazy thought of the day....brought to us by Jagermeister of course:

 

With the way the game is changing and the fact that we have an influx of promising defenseman, maybe we could run with 7 defenseman and let a offensive defenseman like Cam Jones or Lundqvist play wing at some points like Brendan Smith has in the past.

 

I dunno, just a thought.

Meh. Or just roll 7 D men like they did a few years ago.. Not terrible but not conventional. It's an idea though.