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    Name a captain when we have a coach of the future, which is not DQ.
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    I think it would be a good move to give Kreider the C

    Might light a fire in his ass and put him on the spot to be a more consistent dominant force that we know he can be

    Deangelo was good in good times but sucks when your back is against the wall and the time to turn a page is now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers View Post
    Name a captain when we have a coach of the future, which is not DQ.
    All NHL coaches have shelf lives. Some more visible than others, but shelf lives nonetheless. The longevity of a coach is likely not a factor in making this decision given the likelihood the player will stick around after him anyway.
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    Rangers Should Name Chris Kreider Captain in Wake of Tony DeAngelo Debacle

    About Bugg?s earlier remarks about the team going to the finals post-Callahan...that squad was dialed in already and everyone was rowing in unison, so not having a Captain wasn?t going to upset the team IMO.

    I?d give Kreider the C despite saying recently that I?ve given up on him and wouldn?t mind a trade. Giving him the C costs us nothing. It might just make home more accountable. Maybe it massages his ego and stimulates his hockey playing libido? Guy can play the game. He has the tools to be super. Maybe the weight of wearing the C will push him to take off the Casper cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    All NHL coaches have shelf lives. Some more visible than others, but shelf lives nonetheless. The longevity of a coach is likely not a factor in making this decision given the likelihood the player will stick around after him anyway.
    While what you are saying is obvious, we also have to think about not just relationship between captain and a team. Captain needs to have a good relationship with both sides, team and coach.
    Let the new coach come in, establish relationship, name a captan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers View Post
    While what you are saying is obvious, we also have to think about not just relationship between captain and a team. Captain needs to have a good relationship with both sides, team and coach.
    Let the new coach come in, establish relationship, name a captan.
    That's not really how it works, either. When teams name new coaches, players aren't all of a sudden stripped of letters while the new coach determines who he thinks is deserving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    That's not really how it works, either. When teams name new coaches, players aren't all of a sudden stripped of letters while the new coach determines who he thinks is deserving.

    That’s exactly what I’m saying, if we wait for new coach to name a C, you wont be looking in to stripping anyone.
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    You didn't read what I said. That practice almost never happens.
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    Just throwing it out there.

    https://youtu.be/-fMoDQ-daz0

    Kypreos and Doug Maclean say scrums like this happen waaaay more than we know.

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    There's a particular need for player leadership at this moment. It's obviously not the right time for Zib. I agree they should give Kreider the C. If the situation with ADA has divided the room, a strong veteran player, rather than the coach, is the one to bridge the gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    There's a particular need for player leadership at this moment. It's obviously not the right time for Zib. I agree they should give Kreider the C. If the situation with ADA has divided the room, a strong veteran player, rather than the coach, is the one to bridge the gap.
    I just don't see how putting a C on his chest changes anything. Kreider is who he is, putting a C on his chest doesn't transform him into a leader of men. The person we're looking for isn't in the locker room, that's blatantly obvious to me. There isn't one guy in that room who everyone looks to, who commands the room, who is the natural leader of the group.
    I think the current strategy is fine. When the right person shows up it'll be time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Bluntly - who do you give the C to if it isn't Kreider?

    Trouba hasn't been there. He's had one miracle-ish playoff run amidst a lot of losing.
    Panarin is a wunderkind; leave him be.
    Zib is kind of the same thing as Trouba - he's had one real good run

    If Kreider isn't the guy, you've exhausted your "legit veteran leaders" group, and you have to start looking at who leads the youth. You have to be thinking it's Fox, Lafreniere, maybe Miller. None of them are even remotely ready for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    Bluntly - who do you give the C to if it isn't Kreider?

    Trouba hasn't been there. He's had one miracle-ish playoff run amidst a lot of losing.
    Panarin is a wunderkind; leave him be.
    Zib is kind of the same thing as Trouba - he's had one real good run

    If Kreider isn't the guy, you've exhausted your "legit veteran leaders" group, and you have to start looking at who leads the youth. You have to be thinking it's Fox, Lafreniere, maybe Miller. None of them are even remotely ready for that.
    I am perfectly fine waiting for one of them or someone else to be ready. Naming a captain should not be a priority here, not now. All this talk of being a leader is dumb- pinning a "C" to a vet will not change a damn thing.

    I think there are some candidates in the long term- but you have to let them get there.

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    I have a feeling it'll eventually be Lafreniere. Whether that's next season or 5 seasons from now, I don't know. But that's my feeling.

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    No it?s games like this is the reason why he shouldn?t be named captain


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    Quote Originally Posted by paddynyc View Post
    No it?s games like this is the reason why he shouldn?t be named captain


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    Seasons like this imo.

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    How about this: "Captain Fox"?

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    He’d be a good 3rd line checking forward who scores 20. I think that’s what’s going to happen eventually once Laf establishes himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    How about this: "Captain Fox"?
    I think this is honestly the right answer. Dude has liquid nitrogen flowing through his veins, and again - if not Kreider, the message you're sending is that the Captain should be among the youth.
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