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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Oh here we go, replacing Strome because he benefited from Panarin to a guy riding McDavid's coattails to an insanely expensive contract!
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    I draft a player like Perrault, Grieg, or Holloway. Re-sign Strome to a short deal and give that pick a couple of years to mature and be ready to step in. I think thatís makes the most sense. We are not 1 player away from winning it all, we are not even contenders yet. So why over pay for someone whoís not a game changer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    I draft a player like Perrault, Grieg, or Holloway. Re-sign Strome to a short deal and give that pick a couple of years to mature and be ready to step in. I think thatís makes the most sense. We are not 1 player away from winning it all, we are not even contenders yet. So why over pay for someone whoís not a game changer.


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    While the majority here want to see a package trade for a genuine NHL quantity (me included), Gorton may not be able to work the tumblers on that lock in the next 3 and a half weeks. While rankings are not draft order, I did notice that McKenzie penciled Connor Zary in at 22. A long shot to still be around then, but a serious multi-tool C asset if it happened. And, while probably not NHL ready until 22-23, def in for the larger window.

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    What To Do With Pick 22?

    Getting back to what was said earlier about team having an internal cap.
    ( saw an article on Buffalo ownership asking its coaching staff to take a pay cut and laying off front office staff etc..) And couple that with an article in Blue Seats Blog written by Dave where he says teams will be going to an internal cap meanwhile Dolan will just spend. Makes our outlook look good, I mean teams will be looking to drop salary and as long as we can stay under the real cap we can get a steal or two. Plus it also looks like a bad year for free agents to get their big payday.

    P.S. article also mentions Smith cap hit vs his actual contract for next year, referencing how a team would trade for his cap hit while saving on his actual salary.

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    https://theathletic.com/2072618/2020/09/21/nhl-staff-mock-draft-2020-changes-in-the-top-three-plus-an-audit-by-nhl-scouts/

    For those paywalled - the Athletic does this as a group activity w/the beatwriters, so Carp makes our picks.

    Obviously, we're mocked Lafreniere at 1, but 22...

    22. New York Rangers: Tyson Foerster, RW, Barrie-OHL
    Rick Carpinello: I think there’s a decent chance the Rangers trade this pick in order to fill a more immediate need either on left defense or second-line center. That said, Foerster, a right winger who can play center, checks a lot of boxes. A hard worker who can score and defend, the type of player that was missing in their recent sweep by Carolina, Foerster has an almost-ready NHL body (6-foot-2, 194 pounds) and made a significant jump offensively for Barrie (OHL) from 2018-19, when he had 10 goals and 23 points in 64 games, to 2019-20, when he piled up 36 and 80 in 62 games. He also had 3.62 shots on goal per game, a welcome stat for a pass-first Rangers team. Only question is his skating. He’d likely remain in junior hockey working on that.

    From Pronman's talk w/scouts about this draft
    A couple of scouts thought Mysak and Foerster went too high and wouldn’t go in the first round. Based on my understanding, both have a decent chance to go on Day 1. Foerster more in the 25-35 range, and Mysak more likely as one of the last few picks in the first round.
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    If you donít mind be asking where do Dylan Holloway & Jacob Perreault fall in their mock?


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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    https://theathletic.com/2072618/2020/09/21/nhl-staff-mock-draft-2020-changes-in-the-top-three-plus-an-audit-by-nhl-scouts/

    For those paywalled - the Athletic does this as a group activity w/the beatwriters, so Carp makes our picks.

    Obviously, we're mocked Lafreniere at 1, but 22...
    Carp's logic doesn't make sense. You don't draft a guy today, who's a year or 2 away from the NHL, to address a gap in the series you just lost.

    Unless he's just trying fill a word count and make a comment for comment's sake, that's a bogus take.

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    I feel reasonably certain Carpiniello has never seen the guy play and doesn't know anything about the players that would be around for the Rangers second pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    If you don’t mind be asking where do Dylan Holloway & Jacob Perreault fall in their mock?


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    Holloway was taken by the Edmonton writer at 14, and Perreault went to Anaheim at 27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Carp's logic doesn't make sense. You don't draft a guy today, who's a year or 2 away from the NHL, to address a gap in the series you just lost.

    Unless he's just trying fill a word count and make a comment for comment's sake, that's a bogus take.
    It's a weird way of saying that the Rangers have no shoot-first players aside from Mika. He's not wrong...just strange.
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    I think you have to look at players like Miller and Lundkvist, two guys who were drafted in the 20s, now two years removed from their draft, and still not even in the organization. It makes absolutely no sense to pick a guy based on current team needs.

    Which is 100% fine, but we're draft #1OA and looking to make an improvement on last season. There's almost no reason to keep that pick unless you just simply can't find someone to pay a decent price for it.
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    BPA is what to do with Pick 22 (if it's not moved in a deal to get better now). Drafting anyone, ever, for positional need is always a recipe for disaster. Prospects tend to take years to develop — years in which teams don't actively hold out filling holes in their roster waiting for said prospect to fill it.
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