josh Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Stupid. Just stupid, especially with the playoff hopes essentially dashed with Igor out. You know its bad when this guy doesnt post 15 paragraphs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 LTF must be thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 You know its bad when this guy doesnt post 15 paragraphs :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Probably best case scenario for him being re-signed. Would have preferred a trade, but $6.5 is manageable. In years 6 and 7 we might be crying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I can’t believe Gorton caved on this guy. How the fuck do you give a guy 7 years at 29? There is no logic to this. Undoubtedly there’s trade protection too. Here we are saddled with another contract on a player who won’t be worth what their paying him at a point where he has years left on his deal and they likely won’t be able to move him. Hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 -- Sup Rhom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Kreider scores cup GWG, mark it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Probably best case scenario for him being re-signed. Would have preferred a trade, but $6.5 is manageable. In years 6 and 7 we might be crying though. I think it will be sooner than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Kreider scores cup GWG, mark it If that happens, and he's still a Ranger when he does it, I'll literally never criticize a bad deal again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Not the worst case scenario, but not in love with it either. Kreider's gotta be more like "last two months" Kreider than "last five years" Kreider to make this feel worth it. Gotta deliver at least 300 points over the deal to make that "worth it". Who's the cap casualty? They're going to have to delete somebody else, now, or pull a rabbit out of their hat. Have to pay the piper at some point. I wouldn't mind them moving Skjei, and there are teams looking for defensive depths. Also, I cont see Lemeuix getting a raise above what he is at now. Im hoping they can get ADA on a cheap deal for a year, and then either move or pay him next summer once Hank and Staal are off the books. Fast and Strome are the only 2 they need to really figure out now how to fit in. Storm I also wouldn't mind on a cheap 1 year deal like ADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Have to give Kreider his credit tho. He turned up for the 2 months it took to convice Gorton to give him a 7 year deal instead of trading him like McD/Miller/Zucc/Hayes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'm in the minority here, but I don't mind this deal. I was fine at $6.5M for the cap hit. Losing him was going to leave a huge hole on the top line. I think with him and Z together for years to come, they are both going to benefit from each other. The 7 years is a little long, would have preferred 6, but it keeps the cap hit down, so to me, it is what it is. I'll go on record too saying that I don't mind the deal. Not crazy about the 7th year, but for that cap hit, I can rationalize it as the cost of doing business. As long as they didn't do something stupid like give him a full NMC, and his production/play doesn't fall off a cliff immediately like Girardi & Staal's did, I think this contract may even be considered value in 3-4 years when they are competing and forward contracts inflate in value. Edit- Cap Friendly is say Modified NTC with Kreider submitting 11 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieser Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Now he can go play like a phantom and disappear again... Fucking smoke show and Gorton bought it. Just an absolutely AWFUL fucking deal....7 years??? You gotta be kidding!!!! Agreed. It was a sell high moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I?m ok with the terms. The accident ruined any good vibes today. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I think it will be sooner than that. Maybe, but he's always been a guy to keep himself in good shape and prepare the right way to play the game. I think that, even as he ages, speed will be an asset for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 If that happens, and he's still a Ranger when he does it, I'll literally never criticize a bad deal again. More likely he goes scoreless the next 10-15 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Maybe, but he's always been a guy to keep himself in good shape and prepare the right way to play the game. I think that, even as he ages, speed will be an asset for him. The legs will go and the way he plays erodes ability. And now who goes as a result of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 This team should contend for the Cup in 2-3 years. Kreider should (hopefully) be in fine shape. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 If krieder gives you 5 or 6 years of 25ish goals, isn’t it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 They have to win in the first four years, basically. After that, the pain comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Kakko completely shitting the bed made this decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 All I can say is they better have a plan to rid themselves of Smith, Staal and/or Hank that doesn't include a buyout. If Deangelo is the casualty here I don't see how you're ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 The legs will go and the way he plays erodes ability. And now who goes as a result of this? Most players will tell you the hands go first, but he's never been a guy with hands. So that's not an aspect of his game that will wear away too much. He plays a simple game. He just needs to keep his speed, size, and stay healthy. I think this will be a fine contract for at least 4 years, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 If krieder gives you 5 or 6 years of 25ish goals, isn’t it worth it? Yes. I don't have much problem with this contract. 6.5M is a great AAV. That's absolutely nothing when the cap is probably up close to 100 million in another 5 years. Preferably, I would have traded him and signed him in the summer for the same thing. Especially with Shesterkin now out. But that must not have been an option, or the Rangers didn't want to take the risk of losing him on this deal. They were also probably getting pretty shitty offers. A 1st and a C prospect isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Kakko completely shitting the bed made this decision That's a good point, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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