Slobberknocker Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 We've spent much time talking about CK's status here but what about Jesper. Guy is an unsung dude who can play up and down the lines. He's 28 and in the last year of a 1.85 mln deal. Personally I feel we need guys like this. If the money is o.k. I'm fine with giving him some term. Love a lunch pail guy who is a pro and goes about his business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 As with most/all unrestricted free agents (by way of age), it comes down to term. He's a fine, albeit unspectacular player who has developed into a quality leader on the team. There's value in that. Just not a lot. If he's OK with something like 2.5x3, they'll probably just keep him, but there's a pretty visible ceiling to how much you should pay players like this and an even clearer limit on how long. Loyalty can be synonymous with death in this business. Especially when you award it to players who haven't actually won you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 he's an ideal 4th liner who hustles on every play, can score an occasional goal, kills penalties. basically, he's Blair Betts with little more of a scoring touch. how much would you pay a 4th liner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2.5 X 3 or see ya later....I was down on Fast at the beginning of the season, and he's grown on me this season. I think we've had too many guys like this. I'd rather have a younger guy with more size, strength and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I even think $2.5 is too much. he's totally replaceable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 You have to trade him at the deadline. They'll probably get more for Fast than what they got for Zuccarello. If he wants to come back short and cheap (max 3y, max 2m per) then I'd re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 They most certainly would not get more for him than they got for Zucc. He's more than a fourth liner and less than a first liner. He's been here for a long time, wears an A, and is the players' player every year for reasons beyond the ken of some posters. He's not likely to wear out soon. He can be had for a reasonable amount. Sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 They most certainly would not get more for him than they got for Zucc. He's more than a fourth liner and less than a first liner. He's been here for a long time, wears an A, and is the players' player every year for reasons beyond the ken of some posters. He's not likely to wear out soon. He can be had for a reasonable amount. Sign him. would you say he's a second liner then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 not sure u get more than zucc. i'd say no more than a second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 You won't get much for him in a trade so I'm not sure what the point would be. He's playing on a line with Panarin and while everyone makes Strome's play out to be the effect of playing with Bread, somehow Fast has not gotten any benefits. His stats are not impressive at all. Apparently he's a leader of some kind but his ideal role is on the 4th line, so pay him like a 4th liner. His greatest attribute is utility which will be perfect when the expansion draft comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 They'll probably get more for Fast than what they got for Zuccarello. That's highly doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 You have to trade him at the deadline. They'll probably get more for Fast than what they got for Zuccarello. If he wants to come back short and cheap (max 3y, max 2m per) then I'd re-sign him. Fast has 17 points while playing with Panarin all season. How would they possibly get more for him than Zucc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Theres no way they get more for him than Zucc. zucc came one goal away from netting a first round pick. He’s a role player that can be moved up in a pinch. If he takes a team friendly contract then so be it. If he’s shooting for a pay day then see ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Fast is a pretty good 4th liner on the right team. Picture Fast on the 4th line with a team like St Louis, Arizona, Washington or even Toronto, who needs some defensive-forward players badly in my opinion. He adds that "you're not scoring on us" mentality to a club, while bringing some limited offensive skill with him. The issue with Fast for the Rangers is that he's 29, and Jesper has work boots that are older than most of the Ranger's rookies these days....plus, he may be blocking an up and coming player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The days of a first-rounder for Paul Gaustad are long gone. Players moved in deals for a first last year included Hayes (the only one on deadline day), Montour, and Duchene. Marcus Johansson — a better player by most measures — went for a second- and a fourth-round pick. Nyquist went for a second- and third-rounder. Hagelin went for a third- and sixth-rounder. Fast is probably a third- and fifth-rounder. In other words: not very much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Fast might play up and down the lineup but it doesn't mean he can. He was terrible with Panarin. He's a capable bottom 6. Ideal 4th liner and good PK work on a competitive team. Can fill in 3rd line when injury strikes. He should never be anywhere near top 6. 2.25M max. Ideally 1.75-2M. I'm fine with 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Fast might play up and down the lineup but it doesn't mean he can. He was terrible with Panarin. He's a capable bottom 6. Ideal 4th liner and good PK work on a competitive team. Can fill in 3rd line when injury strikes. He should never be anywhere near top 6. 2.25M max. Ideally 1.75-2M. I'm fine with 3-4 years. That’s about where I’m at on him too. If he’s on a 3rd line, it doesn’t kill you, but ideally I’d prefer a player who can give you more offense in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I might not be correct but I think Panarin and Strome have been more effective with Fast on their line than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I might not be correct but I think Panarin and Strome have been more effective with Fast on their line than anyone else. that's possible and I thought about this as well but what does he bring to that line that may make them more effective? Panarin and Strome are both possession players while Fast is a forechecker. Not sure what he brings to their line other than offensive incompetence. im such a naysayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I might not be correct but I think Panarin and Strome have been more effective with Fast on their line than anyone else. He grinds well. Keeps pucks moving along the boards well. The Zibby goal last night was all his work along the boards before sending it across to ADA. He's been okay on the line. Terrible is inaccurate. However, he is replaceable if he wants too much $ imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 In spite of what the NAYSAYERS say, KEEP HIM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 SALARY CAP, SCHMALARY CAP! KEEP EVERYONE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 In spite of what the NAYSAYERS say, KEEP HIM!!! Weren't you dumping on Brady Skjei the other day you Naysayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 In spite of what the NAYSAYERS say, KEEP HIM!!! a naysayer would keep him. a yaysayer would let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 SALARY CAP, SCHMALARY CAP! KEEP EVERYONE!!! E*X*A*C*T*L*Y!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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