Pete Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 he looked good in preseason, better than any other forward his age or younger. And then playing with Smith Haley and McKegg he didn't look as effective... HMMM....Yet Smith and Haley and McKegg managed to put pucks in nets... And Lias couldn't ... Love the narrative that Haley was some kind regular and didn't only play half the games. Just adds to the smoke and mirrors of... Lias sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Kakko has had some blah games when he was invisible earlier in the season. . But he also has had some electric moments, and he's gotten better every games. And before his illness he was arguably the most impressive forward other than Panarin (since Mikka's injury). Andersson has not once had any instances like that. Not one. Kakko had 1 ES point in his first 11 games and was -12 (going off memory), since he's practically a PPG. The kid was awful, but was put in a position to play to his strengths and succeed. And its helped his game tremendously. Fox getting favorable matchups, PP time and has played 1 SH shift all season. ADA - 1st unit PP, no pk Hajek favorable minutes while sucking Howden - 3C when he should have been sent down, PP time, Kakko, top 6 linemates Kakko - PP time, 1 game of less playing time, moved to top line with 0 points after several games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 It's amazing what playing the way the coach wants will get you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 None of those players did such. That's the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Kakko had 1 ES point in his first 11 games and was -12 (going off memory), since he's practically a PPG. The kid was awful, but was put in a position to play to his strengths and succeed. And its helped his game tremendously. Fox getting favorable matchups, PP time and has played 1 SH shift all season. ADA - 1st unit PP, no pk Hajek favorable minutes while sucking Howden - 3C when he should have been sent down, PP time, Kakko, top 6 linemates Kakko - PP time, 1 game of less playing time, moved to top line with 0 points after several games No disagreement, but this kid has gotten better and better as the season has progressed. Seems he took Quinn's direction to heart. Andersson has been invisible, even if his minutes have dropped. I wish it were otherwise, but he doesn't do much when he's in the game. Put it this way; it's a lot like Vesey. Vesey often appeared to assume as son of a scout and having been a high draft pick, he was a given to get a sweater and a top 6 slot every night. Looked like he floated through games. You have to work and do what the coach wants, or at least get on the scoresheet regularly. Andersson is not doing those things. Lots of ripping on Howden,but he's doing the little things the coach wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 None of those players did such. That's the thing.Quinn disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Quinn disagrees. And that’s what most of us have been having an issue with, this set of rules he sets out, but randomly but arbitrarily applies. Then comes up with this “bank” of plays. I have no issue with what Quinn asks from his players. I’m very similar with my men’s team (skate! Go! Move! Fast!) and it’s the same thing I point out among youth players wondering why their skills aren’t transferring at the next level (you need to move, you need to be fast), it’s the picking and choosing, and the god damn favorites like it’s peewee hockey. I don’t think Quinn put him in a place to succeed (practically admitted yesterday) and punished him accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 And that?s what most of us have been having an issue with, this set of rules he sets out, but randomly but arbitrarily applies. Then comes up with this ?bank? of plays. I have no issue with what Quinn asks from his players. I?m very similar with my men?s team (skate! Go! Move! Fast!) and it?s the same thing I point out among youth players wondering why their skills aren?t transferring at the next level (you need to move, you need to be fast), it?s the picking and choosing, and the god damn favorites like it?s peewee hockey. I don?t think Quinn put him in a place to succeed (practically admitted yesterday) and punished him accordingly.The only thing I disagree with here is "arbitrarily applies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The only thing I disagree with here is "arbitrarily applies". You seem to be right on this one. I thought the quotes from Quinn and Carpiniello cleared things up a whole lot. This appears to be about doing what you're coached to do. Which I suppose is fair enough and understandable. I mean, I couldn't disagree more that skating hard and doing whatever Quinn tells you to do whilst producing zero results should be enough to keep getting rewarded. I'm not convinced that's a feasible way of running a professional team. But at least what's happening makes sense to me on a certain level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 You seem to be right on this one. I thought the quotes from Quinn and Carpiniello cleared things up a whole lot. This appears to be about doing what you're coached to do. Which I suppose is fair enough and understandable. I mean, I couldn't disagree more that skating hard and doing whatever Quinn tells you to do whilst producing zero results should be enough to keep getting rewarded. I'm not convinced that's a feasible way of running a professional team. But at least what's happening makes sense to me on a certain level.Yea I mean like I said, I'm not sold on if it's right. But if you wanted an answer on "Why didn't Lias get a chance", Quinn's been pretty transparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I think when this team is ready to compete for realz (next year or the year after) someone that's not here will be the 3C, Howden will be 4C, and Lias, if he has the skills to stick, will be playing wing in place of Fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Kakko had 1 ES point in his first 11 games and was -12 (going off memory), since he's practically a PPG. The kid was awful, but was put in a position to play to his strengths and succeed. And its helped his game tremendously. Fox getting favorable matchups, PP time and has played 1 SH shift all season. ADA - 1st unit PP, no pk Hajek favorable minutes while sucking Howden - 3C when he should have been sent down, PP time, Kakko, top 6 linemates Kakko - PP time, 1 game of less playing time, moved to top line with 0 points after several games I think the kid was over his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 just scored for Hartford, so thats a good sign Andersson 3rd star in a 3-1 loss to Syracuse this afternoon. Sounds like he played a lot, so theres that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I wish they tracked icetime there, but that's a big statement goal, assuming it didn't go in off his ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Maybe it was a Doug Glatt kinda goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Maybe it was a Doug Glatt kinda goal? That was lASSt season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I wish they tracked icetime there, but that's a big statement goal, assuming it didn't go in off his ear. Dont care. Goal on his first game demoted. Show that clownn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Dont care. Goal on his first game demoted. Show that clownn What clown? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 THE clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Howden scores an NHL goal on a snipe... on the same day Lias scores scrummy AHL goal. Seems an appropriate story line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Howden scores an NHL goal on a snipe... on the same day Lias scores scrummy AHL goal. Seems an appropriate story line. What a snipe from 4 feet out, all alone in front of the net, off the beautiful feed by Brendan Smith. Oops, or was it Buchnevich? Doesn't matter. Linemates are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 What a snipe from 4 feet out, all alone in front of the net, off the beautiful feed by Brendan Smith. Oops, or was it Buchnevich? Doesn't matter. Linemates are irrelevant.Way to read too much into it. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 How about that Howden!!! Wooooo! Progress baby!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Way to read too much into it. Nice job. Lol nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Speaking of Andersson, does the AHL/Wolfpack not do highlights of their games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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