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    Rangers Interested in D Ben Hutton

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    Hmmm, not sure I really get this one. I guess he could be your #7, if Smith is in Hartford, but I don't see how that makes sense for him OR the Rangers.

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    I rather see them going after Stone as a 7th dman. He was just bought out and probably will sign for much cheaper.

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    Analytics darling kind of player, iirc. Could be a good bargain bin pickup.

    Not really sure where or how he fits though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    Analytics darling kind of player, iirc. Could be a good bargain bin pickup.

    Not really sure where or how he fits though.
    Nah, his analytics are trash.

    I guess that could make him a Staal replacement lol

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    Maybe they like the idea of a more experienced guy as a spare.

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    Assuming the idea is to bury Smith in Hartford they probably do need a depth signing.
    In a perfect world Hajek and Rykov can handle it, but that’s by no means a given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Nah, his analytics are trash.

    I guess that could make him a Staal replacement lol
    Yeah, I was gonna say, his relative numbers are dog shit. LOL. He's... Pionk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    Assuming the idea is to bury Smith in Hartford they probably do need a depth signing.
    In a perfect world Hajek and Rykov can handle it, but that’s by no means a given.
    They should sign Claesson, then. Not this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Nah, his analytics are trash.

    I guess that could make him a Staal replacement lol
    His defensive analytics are fantastic. His offensive analytics are bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    They should sign Claesson, then. Not this guy.
    I wouldn’t mind that at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    They should sign Claesson, then. Not this guy.
    I liked Claesson! He was pretty decent back there.

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    Who cares who the 7th d-man is so long has he's cheap...
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    Quote Originally Posted by G1000 View Post
    His defensive analytics are fantastic. His offensive analytics are bad.
    What are they?

    "Analytic darlings" are pretty exclusively defined by shot share, and Hutton's are poor. I guess he could be good at defending the blueline or something, but so is Brendan Smith.

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    I'd rather sink or swim with Hayek, Rykov, Lindgren and Fox and don't want to take playing time away from anyone. They don't need any more one way contracts, even small ones.

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    Again players are living and dying by analytics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    What are they?

    "Analytic darlings" are pretty exclusively defined by shot share, and Hutton's are poor. I guess he could be good at defending the blueline or something, but so is Brendan Smith.
    Zone entry metrics; breakups, possessions allowed. Fancystats are more than Corsi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Again players are living and dying by analytics.
    Traditional stats and the eye test have worked for 50+ years of modern era, post-expansion hockey. They still do the job well if your scouts and talent evaluators (I mean pro level guys, not for amateurs) do their jobs well.

    Analytics don’t often paint an entirely new picture. They just fill in the existing one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    Traditional stats and the eye test have worked for 50+ years of modern era, post-expansion hockey. They still do the job well if your scouts and talent evaluators (I mean pro level guys, not for amateurs) do their jobs well.

    Analytics don’t often paint an entirely new picture. They just fill in the existing one.
    They're not meant to paint an entirely new picture.
    They're meant to be an additional set of input evaluators can use to make informed decisions, in conjunction with every other bit of information available on a player.
    Making decisions solely based on analytics is a folly. "Not believing" in analytics is archaic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    They're not meant to paint an entirely new picture.
    They're meant to be an additional set of input evaluators can use to make informed decisions, in conjunction with every other bit of information available on a player.
    Making decisions solely based on analytics is a folly. "Not believing" in analytics is archaic.
    And yet here we are on a message board where I don't think anyone even knows what this guy looks like and they're judging him based on shit like shot share.

    I don't even know who this guy is so I don't really care, but the commentary is infuriating. no one on this board can actually say they watched this guy play extensively enough to judge if he's good or not good.

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