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    lol...he'll still be scratched 50% of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    The Adam Fox stuff is premature

    Yet to play a single professional game.

    Everyone should slow down on him.
    He has a potentially bright future and Iím glad they have him, but heís going to have his ups and downs regardless. How long until Quinn has to scratch his ass?


    And as of this moment there a 4 RHD on the roster potentially for 3 spots.
    Thatís true, but heís had an absolutely outstanding college career as a ppqb.
    And Trouba really isnít particularly special as a qb so context is important here. I think itís entirely possible AdA and, as I said, possibly Fox are both better suited to run pp1 and if so thatís totally fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    They donít want to McD him either.
    Heís going to play on the 1st pair. Heís going to play pk1. Does he really need to be pp1 as well?
    I also think AdA and quite possibly Fox are better pp qbís anyway.
    Then we probably overpaid by about $2 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Then we probably overpaid by about $2 million.
    I’d say about 1.25

    Ideally he should be making under 7. If he’d have gotten $50 million over 7 years, I’d have lived with it.

    Again, I’m happy to have him, but not sure how this works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Then we probably overpaid by about $2 million.
    Iíd say about 1.25

    Ideally he should be making under 7. If heíd have gotten $50 million over 7 years, Iíd have lived with it.

    Again, Iím happy to have him, but not sure how this works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    That’s true, but he’s had an absolutely outstanding college career as a ppqb.
    And Trouba really isn’t particularly special as a qb so context is important here. I think it’s entirely possible AdA and, as I said, possibly Fox are both better suited to run pp1 and if so that’s totally fine.
    Totally agree
    He has the appropriate skill set and a history of success in that area, so I have no issue with anyone projecting him to be that guy in that roll.

    But if he proves to be a liability in his own end, or when he goes through the inevitable ups and downs of being a rookie defenseman in the NHL, what does that do to his confidence, playing time, PP time, and his standing in the eyes of the coaching staff?

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    NHL Top 20 Defensemen

    15. Jacob Trouba, New York Rangers
    Trouba had his most productive season in the NHL in 2018-19, when he had 50 points (eight goals, 42 assists) for the Winnipeg Jets, including 18 on the power play after he had 20 in his first five NHL seasons combined. The 25-year-old was traded to New York on June 17 and agreed to a seven-year contract July 19.
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    Yeah, I'll take the 15th best D-man in the league signed for all his prime years for 8m a year.

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    Brent Burns is a terrific example of a defenseman that can explode when receiving PP time. Very Trouba-like numbers prior to breaking out at age 29, which aligns with when he began to get a lot of PP time.

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    Brent Burns was a converted forward with better pedigree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Brent Burns is a terrific example of a defenseman that can explode when receiving PP time. Very Trouba-like numbers prior to breaking out at age 29, which aligns with when he began to get a lot of PP time.
    Burns played 23:00 per night and led all defensemen in PP Time by a mile (3:09) in Minnesota in 2007-08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Burns played 23:00 per night and led all defensemen in PP Time by a mile (3:09) in Minnesota in 2007-08.
    And? That was also his rookie year.

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    plus he has no front teeth and a long beard

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    And? That was also his rookie year.
    The point is that it's not simply TOI that leads to production.

    It was also his 4th year.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    The point is that it's not simply TOI that leads to production.

    It was also his 4th year.....
    Hmm. I stand corrected. I didn't know evolving-hockey only goes back to 2007 and I assumed it was his rookie year.

    I never said TOI was the only indicator, but there is a correlation with points produced and PP time. 07-08 was by far his best year at that point, but he was still young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Brent Burns was a converted forward with better pedigree.
    Yup

    And Trouba doesn’t shoot it like Burns does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc View Post
    Yeah, I'll take the 15th best D-man in the league signed for all his prime years for 8m a year.
    Until you see what the 2nd best D got, just 3 summers ago, after winning a Norris...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Until you see what the 2nd best D got, just 3 summers ago, after winning a Norris...
    ? It was a year before he won the Norris. His previous point high was 55 points at the time of the deal and he signed for 10.8% of the cap. Trouba's previous high was 50 points and he signed for 9.8% of the cap. Sounds about right. Let's hope Trouba's career path is similar now.

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    Yeah, I'm not gonna hold my breath on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    ? It was a year before he won the Norris. His previous point high was 55 points at the time of the deal and he signed for 10.8% of the cap. Trouba's previous high was 50 points and he signed for 9.8% of the cap. Sounds about right. Let's hope Trouba's career path is similar now.
    No one but fans and media really subscribe to the % of the cap argument.

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