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Equipment Equipment Equipment. The ancient equipment was not very effective for playing the butterfly, which all goalies do today and only Tony Esposito did back then. In the Mid-80s, the equipment was basically the same as it was in the late 60s (for example, Cooper G12 Waffle Board and Pillows). The big lurch forward in equipment started in the mid-80s. Before the late 60s the equipment was incredibly crude (often home made) and the guys were tiny. Watching Roger Crozier on the NHL finals highlights from the mid-sixties on the NHL network was incredible. He was a little guy and looked like he at best might have had on a heavy shirt under his jersey. He had to be an acrobat to cover a decent amount of the net. As for the 1975 highlights, the game was simply slower. The sticks were lower and there were not constant infractions for hitting guys in the face with a stick. The goonery was out of hand though, although you didn't see that with the Flyers in the sixth game of the finals as much as you usually did. Puck handling was very good and there was much more skating of the puck through the neutral zone pre trap. Watching a game from the Montreal dynasty of 1976-79 is much more impressive than watching a Flyers game from immediately before.

Ok ... So one vezina. Does that change the point lol?

 

I?m not even sure what the point is

I?m not even sure what the point is

Different time, different game than today... I guess?

I wanna see another good old California Golden Seals game, baby!!! Now that was hockey! :rofl:

Fuhr was winning Vezinas with a GAA close to 3.5...

 

ok.. but like Sod said its gotta be a combination of all factors like size of the goalies, size of equipment, and butterfly position. Brodeur broke all the records and he was a stand-up goalie, maybe a little bit of a hybrid

ok.. but like Sod said its gotta be a combination of all factors like size of the goalies, size of equipment, and butterfly position. Brodeur broke all the records and he was a stand-up goalie, maybe a little bit of a hybrid

 

It was a host of factors that led to the boom in low goals against in the mid-90’s

Better equipment

Heavy emphasis on coaching

Improvement in team defense

Emphasis on goal prevention

Bigger and better athletes in goal

New styles developing

 

All those things led to that

It was a host of factors that led to the boom in low goals against in the mid-90’s

Better equipment

Heavy emphasis on coaching

Improvement in team defense

Emphasis on goal prevention

Bigger and better athletes in goal

New styles developing

 

All those things led to that

 

but I was not trying to compare 1990s to now, I was trying to compare pre-Roy era and current era.

Compared to the game now, the game in the 1990s was unwatchable.

Changing to the butterfly style resulted in a change in equipment to suit the style. Longer, wider leg pads to cover more ice, larger chest/arm protection to cover more net and goalies were taking more shots there. It resulted in more need for new pads, which led to more technology. Pads became more mobile and lighter than ever. This led to an increase in larger goalies playing the position, as pads filled more net, and constant post-to-post mobility was replaced with 'in-net' goaltending.

Changing to the butterfly style resulted in a change in equipment to suit the style. Longer, wider leg pads to cover more ice, larger chest/arm protection to cover more net and goalies were taking more shots there. It resulted in more need for new pads, which led to more technology. Pads became more mobile and lighter than ever. This led to an increase in larger goalies playing the position, as pads filled more net, and constant post-to-post mobility was replaced with 'in-net' goaltending.

 

this is so depressing

make the net 6 inches wider and 3 inches taller

make the net 6 inches wider and 3 inches taller

 

Then make the puck the size of a bagel bite.

make the net 6 inches wider and 3 inches taller

 

yes because scoring is so down

It's not about scoring being down. From 1945 to 1985 there were 12 goalies over 6 feet tall that played at least 100 games. From 1985 to today there are 118 goalies over 6 feet tall that played at least 100 games. Goalies have gotten bigger. The net has stayed the same.

Then make the puck the size of a bagel bite.

 

I wonder if a round shaped puck will increase scoring

 

top shelf is wide open

I wonder if a round shaped puck will increase scoring

It would be entertaining if they used a black golf ball.[emoji6]

 

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but I was not trying to compare 1990s to now, I was trying to compare pre-Roy era and current era.

Compared to the game now, the game in the 1990s was unwatchable.

 

I don’t know about that. Those ranger teams were pretty entertaining. The game was certainly different but not always in a worse way. Watch the 1994 conference finals and finals again. Plenty of skill on display, great goaltending, and physical. Honestly before the devils really changed the game somewhere around 95 the game was never better. You name it, skill, fights, physicality, goaltending was all at its peak in the early 90’s

I don’t know about that. Those ranger teams were pretty entertaining. The game was certainly different but not always in a worse way. Watch the 1994 conference finals and finals again. Plenty of skill on display, great goaltending, and physical. Honestly before the devils really changed the game somewhere around 95 the game was never better. You name it, skill, fights, physicality, goaltending was all at its peak in the early 90’s

 

nah, you just have a good fuzzy feeling about 1994 and think the game was at its best. There was so much hooking and grabbing, especially in the late 1990s, that watching those games today makes me cringe. Every time I see a hook, I yell at the ref..lol

The hooking and obstruction was always there. Look at the Oilers in the 80s. They used it to their advantage, and the Penguins in the early/late 90s, and even early Crosby era got away with it - because it opened up space for odd man rushes and goals.

 

The 90s had good hockey throughout the decade. Detroit?

The Devils started trapping in the early 90s. It wasnt bad, at first, until every team used it. Skilled teams like Detroit and Colorado could still beat it with powerhouse lineups, but as it came closer to 2000, less teams were spending (wisely), and lost that necessary skill. We even saw skilled teams like the Stars implement locks/traps. When that happened, it was over. The "bad era" was between 2002 - 2007, when it was who could trap the most.

The hooking and obstruction was always there. Look at the Oilers in the 80s. They used it to their advantage, and the Penguins in the early/late 90s, and even early Crosby era got away with it - because it opened up space for odd man rushes and goals.

 

The 90s had good hockey throughout the decade. Detroit?

The Devils started trapping in the early 90s. It wasnt bad, at first, until every team used it. Skilled teams like Detroit and Colorado could still beat it with powerhouse lineups, but as it came closer to 2000, less teams were spending (wisely), and lost that necessary skill. We even saw skilled teams like the Stars implement locks/traps. When that happened, it was over. The "bad era" was between 2002 - 2007, when it was who could trap the most.

 

Don't forget [over]expansion watering down the talent pool.

Don't forget [over]expansion watering down the talent pool.

 

9 teams in 10 years was a little excessive.

Don't forget [over]expansion watering down the talent pool.

 

9 teams in 10 years was a little excessive.

Fascinating hockey history lesson guys.

 

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