Poll: Which Ranger player will show the most improvement in 2019-2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    I'm sticking with Howden playing well enough to warrant the 2C spot. The pitch on Skjei is excellent as well.
    You think he has that type of ceiling? I'd like for him to just be a disciplined, two-way, forward that can anchor a 4th line and maybe slot up to the 3rd occasionally. I just don't see the talent level being high enough to warrant 2c for a prolonged time with him.

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    Lias ,second line center is there waiting for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty9 View Post
    Lias ,second line center is there waiting for you
    He'd currently be my 4th choice there after Chytil, Strome, and Names.

    Hard to say it's there waiting for him.

    Becoming and NHL regular would be a massive step forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    You think he has that type of ceiling? I'd like for him to just be a disciplined, two-way, forward that can anchor a 4th line and maybe slot up to the 3rd occasionally. I just don't see the talent level being high enough to warrant 2c for a prolonged time with him.
    I do think Howden has the creativity and playmaking ability. We saw glimpes of it in his rookie year. Hopefully he'll add the consistency to his game needed for a 2C role. It will definitely help his game having some talent on his wings which will help his confidence to get to the next level. It's just one of a myriad of reasons I can't wait to see this team play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    I do think Howden has the creativity and playmaking ability. We saw glimpes of it in his rookie year. Hopefully he'll add the consistency to his game needed for a 2C role. It will definitely help his game having some talent on his wings which will help his confidence to get to the next level. It's just one of a myriad of reasons I can't wait to see this team play.
    Howden absolutely has 2nd line potential. I think he got a bit comfortable last season and let up. He wasn't as noticable as he was to start the year. I don't know if it was a nagging injury or something, but he was head and shoulders the 2nd best center option they had next to Hayes.

    I voted Chytil, but I'm actually going to go with Strome. I think if he gets a chance at big minutes he can fulfill that potential he's always had. The guy looked really good when he got ice here. He's definitely more than a 4th liner. Very aggressive play and had kind of an edge to his game. I think that should be more along the lines of what Quinn is looking to have out there if Chytils skill doesn't mesh right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    I do think Howden has the creativity and playmaking ability. We saw glimpes of it in his rookie year. Hopefully he'll add the consistency to his game needed for a 2C role. It will definitely help his game having some talent on his wings which will help his confidence to get to the next level. It's just one of a myriad of reasons I can't wait to see this team play.
    Howden absolutely has 2nd line potential. I think he got a bit comfortable last season and let up. He wasn't as noticable as he was to start the year. I don't know if it was a nagging injury or something, but he was head and shoulders the 2nd best center option they had next to Hayes.

    I voted Chytil, but I'm actually going to go with Strome. I think if he gets a chance at big minutes he can fulfill that potential he's always had. The guy looked really good when he got ice here. He's definitely more than a 4th liner. Very aggressive play and had kind of an edge to his game. I think that should be more along the lines of what Quinn is looking to have out there if Chytils skill doesn't mesh right away.

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    I'd say Strome was thinking Names but I dont believe he will be on the team. I think fast Howden and Anderson have big years

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    I do think Howden has the creativity and playmaking ability. We saw glimpes of it in his rookie year. Hopefully he'll add the consistency to his game needed for a 2C role. It will definitely help his game having some talent on his wings which will help his confidence to get to the next level. It's just one of a myriad of reasons I can't wait to see this team play.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Howden absolutely has 2nd line potential. I think he got a bit comfortable last season and let up. He wasn't as noticable as he was to start the year. I don't know if it was a nagging injury or something, but he was head and shoulders the 2nd best center option they had next to Hayes.
    I hope you guys are right but what I saw after the first 20-25 games seemed like a borderline NHL player more-so than a 2nd line center. Personally I don't ever see enough offense coming from him but if he learns a shut-down defensive game he can be a great asset for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    I hope you guys are right but what I saw after the first 20-25 games seemed like a borderline NHL player more-so than a 2nd line center. Personally I don't ever see enough offense coming from him but if he learns a shut-down defensive game he can be a great asset for us.
    Same for the most part but we desperately need the offensive side to develop and I'm not real optimistic. Maybe the breakfast club starts paying off of he may have been dropped from that program already based on it not paying dividends so far.

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    Sticking with Lias Andersson. I'll acknowledge that it may be my own wishful thinking; I want VERY badly for him to avoid being the next Brendl/Jessiman/McIlrath. Seventh overall is awfully high to take a guy who waffles between the AHL and an NHL fourth line, which is what current performance would dictate. But our European scouting has been sensational in recent years, particularly in the Scandinavian area.

    The biggest problem for me, at least, is his skating and, in today's league, that's downright fatal. That said, when watching him I see what they were thinking. The potential is there for a complete player. He'll never sniff 80 points, or even 70, but he has the potential to be a way more valuable Stepan. I can't help but feel that with a coach like Quinn and literally every spotlight that was on him now being on Kakko and Krav, he's going to excel. There are no expectations anymore, just a nebulous hope that his career justifies his cost. He's a good kid, a born leader and a hard worker, and I know it's killing him that his career is headed toward being another Rangers draft punchline.

    I just have this sneaking suspicion that they put Kakko with him to start the season to ease Kakko in on the 3rd or 4th line and then magic strikes. And when I say magic, I don't mean 90 points. I mean 40-50, with 15-20 goals and every indication that there's room for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Lothbrok View Post
    Sticking with Lias Andersson. I'll acknowledge that it may be my own wishful thinking; I want VERY badly for him to avoid being the next Brendl/Jessiman/McIlrath. Seventh overall is awfully high to take a guy who waffles between the AHL and an NHL fourth line, which is what current performance would dictate. But our European scouting has been sensational in recent years, particularly in the Scandinavian area.

    The biggest problem for me, at least, is his skating and, in today's league, that's downright fatal. That said, when watching him I see what they were thinking. The potential is there for a complete player. He'll never sniff 80 points, or even 70, but he has the potential to be a way more valuable Stepan. I can't help but feel that with a coach like Quinn and literally every spotlight that was on him now being on Kakko and Krav, he's going to excel. There are no expectations anymore, just a nebulous hope that his career justifies his cost. He's a good kid, a born leader and a hard worker, and I know it's killing him that his career is headed toward being another Rangers draft punchline.

    I just have this sneaking suspicion that they put Kakko with him to start the season to ease Kakko in on the 3rd or 4th line and then magic strikes. And when I say magic, I don't mean 90 points. I mean 40-50, with 15-20 goals and every indication that there's room for more.
    From what I've seen thus far, Andersson is a shifty skater who uses his edges well. He's just not overly fast in terms of north/south speed. I don't quite follow the "bad skater" thing that's been promoted around here.

    For every one player that performs instantly at 18-20 years old, there are dozens of players that take a few years before they start to produce at the NHL level. The Rangers were wrong with how NHL ready Andersson was, but I agree with you in that it doesn't mean they were wrong about his talent and/or compete level.
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    His skating “issues” are more mental. He’s thinking too much on the ice. Some ice time and confidence, and he’ll be fine.
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    His very real skating issue is zero first step and acceleration.

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    Because he stops to think instead of reacting instinctually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    His very real skating issue is zero first step and acceleration.
    They should send him to that ex-figure skater in Canada that Boyle went to. Prior to working with her, his skating was not that of an NHL player. He’s done very well for himself since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    They should send him to that ex-figure skater in Canada that Boyle went to. Prior to working with her, his skating was not that of an NHL player. He’s done very well for himself since.
    Barb Underhill. Believe she works for the Leafs, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Barb Underhill. Believe she works for the Leafs, now.
    That’s right
    Once you said her name the lights went on

    Either way, surely there’s someone similar they could get him with that could help him.

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    He needs NHL icetime and confidence more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    He needs NHL icetime and confidence more than anything.
    That won’t hurt. Skating coach won’t hurt. Him getting a little older, filling out, and getting stronger as he moves into being a grown man and a full-time NHL’er won’t hurt

    Kid needs to play, grow, and be coached

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    His very real skating issue is zero first step and acceleration.
    But it's on good edges so there's that. In all seriousness to me he showed nothing that would indicate there's a ton of potential there at this level. I hope they don't gift the guy quality minutes with some of the better forwards, you should have to earn it unless your name is Kakko. Lias had the opportunity to show something last year and he wiffed.

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