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    Devastating Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral

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    Horrible!

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    Just awful. So sad to see this happening one of my favorite works of architecture. Hope the damage can be minimized


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    Quote Originally Posted by So Nashty View Post
    Just awful. So sad to see this happening one of my favorite works of architecture. Hope the damage can be minimized


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    The next hour and a half will be crucial to efforts to save what remains of the Notre Dame cathedral, said Jean-Claude Gallet, commander general of the Paris Fire Brigade.
    “There’s a risk that the great bells fall. If the bells fall, it’s the tower that collapses. There are firefighters inside and outside. The next hour and a half will be crucial,” he told reporters on the scene.

    “We need to win this battle and block the spreading of the flames. The most efficient action is from the inside. We are not sure if we will be able to stop the spreading of the flames to the North Tower," he said.

    He said the initial call to emergency services notified authorities of a fire in the attic of the cathedral, although the cause of the blaze is unknown.

    “We are evacuating the most precious artwork that is being sheltered,” Gallet said.
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    just sad, loss of art and architecture, particularly important for French.
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    It was pretty humbling ( and embarrassing) as a proud American of 200+ years history to stand in front of that place (and many others in Europe) that boasted of THOUSANDS of years of history....

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    So gross. I bet it was arson

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    Ih shit. What a disaster

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    Official word is that it was an accident. OK. I have some questions.

    Are they saying there wasn't a fire watch, in over regulated France, on a job at the Notre Dame? I find that very hard to believe. Impossible, actually. So, assuming there was, how did it fail so bad?

    Also, why would anybody trust the word of that government with its obvious agenda. Not so much different than the German rape cover ups and the English grooming gang debacles. These people go to extreme lengths to keep the locals docile.
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    Some cool stuff I learned yesterday: They planted specific Oaks @ Versailles in the 19th century should the need of restoration arise at Notre Dame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Official word is that it was an accident. OK. I have some questions.

    Are they saying there wasn't a fire watch, in over regulated France, on a job at the Notre Dame? I find that very hard to believe. Impossible, actually. So, assuming there was, how did it fail so bad?

    Also, why would anybody trust the word of that government with its obvious agenda. Not so much different than the German rape cover ups and the English grooming gang debacles. These people go to extreme lengths to keep the locals docile.
    Actually official word is, that they assume it's an accident for now. Investigation still ongoing afaik. Also fires do happen, regulations be damned. People screw up and old wood burns fast.
    But whatever floats your Agenda.

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    OK, thanks for your altruistic input, say hi to mother Merkel for me.

    It's not like dozens upon dozens of cathedrals have been vandalised in past month or anything.

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    Yea, Saint-Sulpice was set on fire a month ago, and they said it was intentional.

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    They are saying that the fire started in a construction area, the are renovating it. I just hope they were able to save the art work and statues that are housed there. Those things are irreplaceable. I hate seeing historical things get destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Official word is that it was an accident. OK. I have some questions.

    Are they saying there wasn't a fire watch, in over regulated France, on a job at the Notre Dame? I find that very hard to believe. Impossible, actually. So, assuming there was, how did it fail so bad?

    Also, why would anybody trust the word of that government with its obvious agenda. Not so much different than the German rape cover ups and the English grooming gang debacles. These people go to extreme lengths to keep the locals docile.
    According to NPR this morning, their Paris correspondent noted that the area where they believe the fire began was known as "the forest," — apparently a long stretch of hundreds-years-old tinder that was just coated in wax and tar and all sorts of other flammable materials as it was continually preserved over the years.
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    Wood that old must have next to no moisture content and would probably burn a lot quicker and harder than most wood so that makes sense. Such a tragedy though. Glad to hear a lot of the art work and statues were saved as was the main stone structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    According to NPR this morning, their Paris correspondent noted that the area where they believe the fire began was known as "the forest," — apparently a long stretch of hundreds-years-old tinder that was just coated in wax and tar and all sorts of other flammable materials as it was continually preserved over the years.
    Yea but....where'd the flame come from? lol.

    To Dunny's point... there had to be fire prevention controls in place when they started renovating, so if it's an accident, it's carelessness or ineptitude. Or, it's arson - which lines up pretty well with what has happened there over the last two months or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Yea but....where'd the flame come from? lol.

    To Dunny's point... there had to be fire prevention controls in place when they started renovating, so if it's an accident, it's carelessness or ineptitude. Or, it's arson - which lines up pretty well with what has happened there over the last two months or so.
    There was a ton of scaffolding up for restoration. My theory is a vandal climbed that scaffolding and got access into that hidden attic full of old timbers and lit the fire. There's been a rash of church vandalism & fires in France recently, I personally believe this was arson

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    There was a ton of scaffolding up for restoration. My theory is a vandal climbed that scaffolding and got access into that hidden attic full of old timbers and lit the fire. There's been a rash of church vandalism & fires in France recently, I personally believe this was arson
    Yea. I feel like this will often get dismissed as some kind of conspiracy theory, but this seems plainly rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Yea but....where'd the flame come from? lol.

    To Dunny's point... there had to be fire prevention controls in place when they started renovating, so if it's an accident, it's carelessness or ineptitude. Or, it's arson - which lines up pretty well with what has happened there over the last two months or so.
    One article mentioned that the fire went undetected for ~25 minutes
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