phillyb Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I can't speak for everyone else and parts of you are right Sod - seeing all of these ex-Rangers in the playoffs is evidence that we didn't need to blow it up and get to where we are now...the front office could have done a better job managing their players. Letting Stralman walk to pick up Dan fucking Boyle was...stupid. Dan Boyle retired after putting up poor numbers for us, and Stralman is a defensive stalwart. There were lots of decisions like the above that were made that took apart the 14 and 15 teams. So Sod, you're right to a certain extent - the Rangers could have kept that core together a bit better. The front office could have made better personnel decisions. Because they didn't, hindsight comes into play and in a 4-5 year retrospect, where we ended up now, picking #2 in the NHL entry draft for the first time in franchise history...is...acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 All those core guys that are currently in the playoffs with other teams are role players. That was always the problem. They never had an Ovechkin, Stamkos, Crosby, or Kane. They tried with Nash, Richards, and St. Louis. It didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Tell me again how our number one franchise defensman is playing in his prime for another team? That is the one that pisses me off the most. All the other moves I can live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Tell me again how our number one franchise defensman is playing in his prime for another team? That is the one that pisses me off the most. All the other moves I can live with.Because his prime is coming to a close and our team isn't a playoff team, even with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 And then resigns in Dallas. And Dallas is a lottery team next year. Wait, that?s another condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Wait, that’s another condition? The Rangers got their 3rd round pick next year, but it becomes a 1st if Zucc resigns with Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The Rangers got their 3rd round pick next year, but it becomes a 1st if Zucc resigns with Dallas. Didn?t remember that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The only ex-Ranger I'd like to see win a cup is Zuccarello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The only ex-Rangers who should are any playing for Tampa, because it means getting another first-round pick. Dallas can make the Conference Final, to give the Rangers another first-round pick. I want four first-round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The only ex-Rangers who should are any playing for Tampa, because it means getting another first-round pick. Dallas can make the Conference Final, to give the Rangers another first-round pick. I want four first-round picks. About to write just this. I'd be happy for Zucc if they lost in the Stanley Cup Final to TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 About to write just this. I'd be happy for Zucc if they lost in the Stanley Cup Final to TB Yup. Just gimme all the picks. I don't care who used to play here or what their outcome is. I just want the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 #FuckTBL #GiveZuccACup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 No one is pro Lightning. We're pro third first-round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The only ex-Rangers who should are any playing for Tampa, because it means getting another first-round pick. Dallas can make the Conference Final, to give the Rangers another first-round pick. I want four first-round picks. If by some chance this does happen, there are so many different directions they can take this thing. Would they: A) Keep them all B) Trade up C) Trade for defense D) Use them to try and get out of a couple of contracts early (Shattenkirk, Smith) E) ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Trade up. Get Zegras. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yup. Just gimme all the picks. I don't care who used to play here or what their outcome is. I just want the picks. Glad to see that you?re finally seeing the light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bda1973 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 My view is different from the rest of the posters. The 14 and 15 teams were not old. If we played it right, we would have been contenders for longer. The surfeit of ex-Rangers in the playoffs 5 years later is evidence of that. Two years ago people were talking about Tampa's and Washington's "windows of opportunity" fast closing and they either would be too cap squeezed or too old yada yada. So much for that. Their periods of contention will end up longer than ours was, and there is no reason we could not have had that as well. OK, you all can slam me now and then go back to marveling at Lias Andersson and Brent Howden.Nice to have a ovie or a stamkos though Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bda1973 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Tell me again how our number one franchise defensman is playing in his prime for another team? That is the one that pisses me off the most. All the other moves I can live with.Perhaps we didnt want another Staal or hank contract for a player who's play was not improving the last year and half while he was a ranger. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Tell me again how our number one franchise defensman is playing in his prime for another team? That is the one that pisses me off the most. All the other moves I can live with.I understand what.you are saying,but it we kept him we aren't going.to the playoffs and maybe we would not be in a position to be drafting #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yup. Just gimme all the picks. I don't care who used to play here or what their outcome is. I just want the picks. I'm riding shotgun with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I think the only reason we didn't win a cup during that era was because we were missing that one gamebreaker type elite player. We've seen some guys that were supporting cast members win a cup and we have a bunch of other good former players on cup contenders now. If we had a Kappo or a Jack Hughes on those teams I think we win a cup. Now, we are going to get that type of talent. It'll take a few years but I am fully confident we can build the same kind of supporting cast around this type of talent agian. Time will tell. I decided awhile ago that the pressure in NY is so severe that there really has to be that Crosby, Ovechkin, Messier-esque guy who has shoulders big enough to take the team on his back and almost single-handedly drag it across the line. I'm not convinced that either Kappo or Hughes is that guy. The competing theory is that with a strong enough supporting cast - including some elite talent like Kappo and Hughes - you can do it. I would put the 13-14 team and the early 70's teams in that category (with Park, the GAG line, a 2nd line - the unheralded "Bulldog Line" - that was nearly as good during a few years). To great heartache, they couldn't get it done. So I'm skeptical, but still hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 I understand what.you are saying,but it we kept him we aren't going.to the playoffs and maybe we would not be in a position to be drafting #2 Ok, this makes sense, and am delighted to get our number two pick, if Gorty does not go off the board with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Ok, this makes sense, and am delighted to get our number two pick, if Gorty does not go off the board with it! If he goes off The board we'll send you there to give him the skunk treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 If he goes off The board we'll send you there to give him the skunk treatment Im surprised there is so much fear they will go off the board at 2. It's not like in the past when we were picking 7 or 9. I know everyone think Lias was a reach pick but im pretty sure the Kings were gonna take him a few picks later. Kravstov was a pick where the analysts underrated him because he wasnt getting much playing time until the playoffs where he tore it up and now he is one of the top prospects from that draft. I dont see how Clark or Gorton pass on Kakko/Hughes. There is no way I see that happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 If he goes off The board we'll send you there to give him the skunk treatment Oh yeah! I would definitely take him "Camping!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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