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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    I assumed he was talking about the prospect/hype prior to their respective draft. (Yes, its the 2nd paragraph. "ignoring what has transpired since [the player was drafted]")

    In such case, I might put Hughes #2. Heard more about him, from a younger age, than Matthews.


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    In that case, Iíd agree with your list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    I’ve always thought our 20th pick plus Kreider gets us close to 11th


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    now to me that seems like overpayment

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    2019 NHL Entry Draft / KAKKO SZN

    Quote Originally Posted by CCCP View Post
    now to me that seems like overpayment
    After Hughes, there are still 5 or so very talented centerman.
    If any of Turcotte, Cozens, Zegras, Dach, Krebs, are still available around 10th-12th

    I move our 20th and Kreider to get one


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    Iíve always thought our 20th pick plus Kreider gets us close to 11th


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    If you feel you can extend him, thatís a fair deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    If you feel you can extend him, thatís a fair deal
    You mean the team trading for him ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCCP View Post
    now to me that seems like overpayment
    Maybe a little.

    But it’s pricey to move up in 1st round more than 2-3 spots.

    They’d be moving up 9 spots, nearly a third of the round, in the 1st round, and they’d be only 1 pick below the top-10. Its costly to do that.

    If they like someone up there a lot, and they aren’t going to pay Kreider, fuck it. Pull the trigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    You mean the team trading for him ?


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    Yes

    If I’m another team I’m not at all dealing for him if I’m not extending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangersIn7 View Post
    Yes

    If Iím another team Iím not at all dealing for him if Iím not extending him.
    Agreed


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    2019 NHL Entry Draft / KAKKO SZN

    Edmonton- 8th
    Vancouver- 10th
    Flyers- 11th

    I wonder if any of those teams are interested in Kreider.
    Lucic has two years left on that albatross of a contract? We could absorb that.

    Kreider + 2nd round pick for
    Lucic + 8th overall


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    Scratch that, just saw Lucic has 4 years left on that contract. 2 years might have worked, but 4 years is too long


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    They are not allowed to discuss a contract extension with Kreider until July 1. It is highly unlikely that they will trade him before discussing a new contract, and it is even less likely that anyone would trade for him before there have been talks and it is known what he is looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    They are not allowed to discuss a contract extension with Kreider until July 1. It is highly unlikely that they will trade him before discussing a new contract, and it is even less likely that anyone would trade for him before there have been talks and it is known what he is looking for.
    True

    But they did talk earlier and they know some of the market so there’s at least something to go off of

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    Edmonton- 8th
    Vancouver- 10th
    Flyers- 11th

    I wonder if any of those teams are interested in Kreider.
    Lucic has two years left on that albatross of a contract? We could absorb that.

    Kreider + 2nd round pick for
    Lucic + 8th overall


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    Also Florida at 13 and Colorado at 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    Scratch that, just saw Lucic has 4 years left on that contract. 2 years might have worked, but 4 years is too long


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    I don't think we can even consider taking on a bad contract without getting rid of our own first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    I don't think we can even consider taking on a bad contract without getting rid of our own first.
    I was thinking with the amount of cap space we have...if we miss out on Panarin we could afford it for 1-2 years in order to acquire a finite number 1 centerman


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    They are not allowed to discuss a contract extension with Kreider until July 1. It is highly unlikely that they will trade him before discussing a new contract, and it is even less likely that anyone would trade for him before there have been talks and it is known what he is looking for.
    Sign and trade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Sign and trade...

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    If it’s a team that is not on his no trade list you’d have to figure they’d at least have some possibility of extending him

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    No taking on bad contracts with multiple years left

    I wouldn’t bank on any hypothetical “if he signs an extension” proposal. Free agency is all the rage these days. Guys aren’t going to sign an extension with fucking Winnipeg or Ottawa without playing a game with them.

    I don’t anticipate a straight Kreider for pick trade. I’d expect any trade of Kreider to resemble the Brassard-Zibanejad deal. I was thinking Kreider for Jost+16. But Colorado seems to be targeting Knight, and will want a mid/late round first going back. I’ve been hoping for Kreider for FLA 1st + Heponiemi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    No taking on bad contracts with multiple years left

    I wouldn’t bank on any hypothetical “if he signs an extension” proposal. Free agency is all the rage these days. Guys aren’t going to sign an extension with fucking Winnipeg or Ottawa without playing a game with them.

    I don’t anticipate a straight Kreider for pick trade. I’d expect any trade of Kreider to resemble the Brassard-Zibanejad deal. I was thinking Kreider for Jost+16. But Colorado seems to be targeting Knight, and will want a mid/late round first going back. I’ve been hoping for Kreider for FLA 1st + Heponiemi.
    I agree
    But no one is talking about Ottawa or Winnipeg
    I’m more desirable destinations than the frozen north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    No taking on bad contracts with multiple years left

    I wouldnít bank on any hypothetical ďif he signs an extensionĒ proposal. Free agency is all the rage these days. Guys arenít going to sign an extension with fucking Winnipeg or Ottawa without playing a game with them.

    I donít anticipate a straight Kreider for pick trade. Iíd expect any trade of Kreider to resemble the Brassard-Zibanejad deal. I was thinking Kreider for Jost+16. But Colorado seems to be targeting Knight, and will want a mid/late round first going back. Iíve been hoping for Kreider for FLA 1st + Heponiemi.
    That seems like an over payment for Florida. Maaaybe in a sign & trade scenario.

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