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    Jimmy Vesey on the Block?

    5. If Pavel Buchnevich and Tony DeAngelo represent players who seemed to respond to Quinn’s tough love, then what to make of Jimmy Vesey, who recorded one point — a goal — over the last 19 games?

    Other, that is, than it is more likely the Harvard product will be somewhere else rather than in Tarrytown when training camp opens in September.
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    Vesey sucks. He, Fast, and Namestnikov all do the exact same thing.
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    One lazy-ass article, Larry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Vesey sucks. He, Fast, and Namestnikov all do the exact same thing.
    IMO, Fast is better than the other 2. Vesey and Namestnikov both need to go.

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    Namestnikov is the best player of the group. He's also the most expensive. Two years from now, none of them should be on the team, however. They're all placeholders. Every single one of them. This is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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    Namestnikov has been a huge failure here, I hope they can get rid of him during the off season.

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    I am good with getting rid of both Vesey and Names if the return is decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So Nashty View Post
    I am good with getting rid of both Vesey and Names if the return is decent.
    The return doesn't even matter. Getting back 6+ million in cap space is a good enough return for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    The return doesn't even matter. Getting back 6+ million in cap space is a good enough return for me.
    But both have decent value.. why wouldn't you wanna capitalize on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Namestnikov has been a huge failure here, I hope they can get rid of him during the off season.
    He's only a failure if you ever thought he was going to be a 40-50 player. He is the exact player he's always been, doing what he always does.

    As a bottom-6 forward, he's a good player to have, depending on the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Namestnikov is the best player of the group. He's also the most expensive. Two years from now, none of them should be on the team, however. They're all placeholders. Every single one of them. This is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
    As long as they keep Strome.

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    Namestnikov won’t be here in a year, probably gone at the deadline as a rental. Only has a year left on his deal. He’s absolutely just a place holder. They took a 2 year flier on him at mid-range money. He’s not killing them, and it wasn’t a bad risk to take.

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    Vesey has been a disappointment. flip him if you can. if you can surround names with more talent he'd pay off. every team needs a fast, good intangible guy, better served for the 3rd or 4th line but can be moved up in a pinch or too give a top 6 guy a breather for a night.
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    I'd move on from Vesey. He's super inconsistent without any huge upside. And when he goes missing, he's not helping in any other area of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Namestnikov has been a huge failure here, I hope they can get rid of him during the off season.
    By what standard? If you thought he was the point producer he was with Tampa (where he was riding shotgun to Stamkos), then yeah, but that's not who he *actually* is. He's a mildly productive third-line prototype who can play up and down your lineup in a pinch. On a rebuilding team, he's the exact type of player you want grooming young prospects who will, ideally, take his job over the course of a few seasons. Same with Fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    As long as they keep Strome.
    Of that group of young veteran middle-six players — Strome, Vesey, Namestnikov, Fast — I keep Namestnikov over all the others. But ideally, none are around long-term. These aren't the kinds of players you invest years in beyond a handful of seasons. They're the ones you allow to groom your prospects into NHL players and then let sign regrettable UFA contracts with another team. Think Callahan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by So Nashty View Post
    But both have decent value.. why wouldn't you wanna capitalize on that?
    Define decent value. A 4th round pick for either would be well received. A 3rd on Namestnikov if another team happens to have a liking for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Of that group of young veteran middle-six players — Strome, Vesey, Namestnikov, Fast — I keep Namestnikov over all the others. But ideally, none are around long-term. These aren't the kinds of players you invest years in beyond a handful of seasons. They're the ones you allow to groom your prospects into NHL players and then let sign regrettable UFA contracts with another team. Think Callahan.
    Strome is night and day better than Names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Strome is night and day better than Names.
    By what standard? I'm not trolling you. I'm legit asking.

    We both know where this is going to go, so let's get the obvious out of the way: he's a career 10% shooter shooting at more than double that (22.5) this season.
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    They can cut bait with Vesey anytime
    Not enough offensively to play in top-6
    Not enough defensively to play in bottom-6

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