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Jimmy Vesey on the Block?


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Unless I'm confused, but I don't think there is a lot of "I'm a fan of Strome". At least from my personal perspective, I think he is the most useful and effective of the trash heap.

I'd still like to unload all of Vesey, Strome, Namestnikov, Fast

 

Me owning a Fast jersey aside, I don't think we need to unload him. He's a solid 4th liner who can PK and has shown an ability to step up in the playoffs. Obviously guys of his ilk are never usually long term players but I don't see the harm in keeping him around and I don't see us getting a ton for him in a trade that would make it worth our while.

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I don?t get the hate for Strome. First off you guys know that the only righty forwards on this team are Zibenajad, Fast and Strome. So I don?t have to tell you how stupid it would be to have only 1 righty forward on the team, let alone 1 righty center when we have draws in different positions on the ice?we wouldn?t want to handy cap ourselves on a defensive draw. Strome gives us that 2nd righty. I don?t understand the whole production thing either?how is it that some of you see a ?production spike?, ? short term production? from him. Strome?s career pts./gm avg. is .46. If you take out his 100 gms in Edmonton?of which he was centering Lucic( who?s done nothing) his pts./gm avg. is .49. He averaged .52 for us in 63 gms. Obvious there?s not of a difference from .49 and .52?which is what 2 or 3 more pts per season. Not to mention that Strome plays with some grit.

 

Vesey on the other hand hasn?t shown much of anything. he?s a -37 for his career and avg. .38 pts/gm. for his career. So I do agree he has to go.

 

If multi players have to go, I would say Vesey should be the 1st to go, Nieves 2nd( we have Howden & Andersson who can be our 4th line center) Fast 3rd( he?s 27 and has missed games due to injury the last 3 yrs to the tune of 16, 11 & 14. I would like to keep him tho? but if we have to make moves then I understand people have to be moved so....) Namestnikov 4th and Strome 5th?if it gets the far.

 

 

 

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I don’t get the hate for Strome. First off you guys know that the only righty forwards on this team are Zibenajad, Fast and Strome. So I don’t have to tell you how stupid it would be to have only 1 righty forward on the team, let alone 1 righty center when we have draws in different positions on the ice—we wouldn’t want to handy cap ourselves on a defensive draw. Strome gives us that 2nd righty. I don’t understand the whole production thing either—how is it that some of you see a “production spike”, “ short term production” from him. Strome’s career pts./gm avg. is .46. If you take out his 100 gms in Edmonton—of which he was centering Lucic( who’s done nothing) his pts./gm avg. is .49. He averaged .52 for us in 63 gms. Obvious there’s not of a difference from .49 and .52–which is what 2 or 3 more pts per season. Not to mention that Strome plays with some grit.

 

Vesey on the other hand hasn’t shown much of anything. he’s a -37 for his career and avg. .38 pts/gm. for his career. So I do agree he has to go.

 

If multi players have to go, I would say Vesey should be the 1st to go, Nieves 2nd( we have Howden & Andersson who can be our 4th line center) Fast 3rd( he’s 27 and has missed games due to injury the last 3 yrs to the tune of 16, 11 & 14. I would like to keep him tho’ but if we have to make moves then I understand people have to be moved so....) Namestnikov 4th and Strome 5th—if it gets the far.

 

 

 

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It's easy. It's not hate. It's hesitation, or criticism at the absolute worst. By suggesting that anyone critical of his performance is "hating" on him, you establish a false narrative from the onset.

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I don?t get the hate for Strome. First off you guys know that the only righty forwards on this team are Zibenajad, Fast and Strome. So I don?t have to tell you how stupid it would be to have only 1 righty forward on the team, let alone 1 righty center when we have draws in different positions on the ice?we wouldn?t want to handy cap ourselves on a defensive draw. Strome gives us that 2nd righty. I don?t understand the whole production thing either?how is it that some of you see a ?production spike?, ? short term production? from him. Strome?s career pts./gm avg. is .46. If you take out his 100 gms in Edmonton?of which he was centering Lucic( who?s done nothing) his pts./gm avg. is .49. He averaged .52 for us in 63 gms. Obvious there?s not of a difference from .49 and .52?which is what 2 or 3 more pts per season. Not to mention that Strome plays with some grit.

 

Vesey on the other hand hasn?t shown much of anything. he?s a -37 for his career and avg. .38 pts/gm. for his career. So I do agree he has to go.

 

If multi players have to go, I would say Vesey should be the 1st to go, Nieves 2nd( we have Howden & Andersson who can be our 4th line center) Fast 3rd( he?s 27 and has missed games due to injury the last 3 yrs to the tune of 16, 11 & 14. I would like to keep him tho? but if we have to make moves then I understand people have to be moved so....) Namestnikov 4th and Strome 5th?if it gets the far.

 

 

 

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Pretty much this.
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I don’t get the hate for Strome. First off you guys know that the only righty forwards on this team are Zibenajad, Fast and Strome. So I don’t have to tell you how stupid it would be to have only 1 righty forward on the team, let alone 1 righty center when we have draws in different positions on the ice—we wouldn’t want to handy cap ourselves on a defensive draw. Strome gives us that 2nd righty. I don’t understand the whole production thing either—how is it that some of you see a “production spike”, “ short term production” from him. Strome’s career pts./gm avg. is .46. If you take out his 100 gms in Edmonton—of which he was centering Lucic( who’s done nothing) his pts./gm avg. is .49. He averaged .52 for us in 63 gms. Obvious there’s not of a difference from .49 and .52–which is what 2 or 3 more pts per season. Not to mention that Strome plays with some grit.

 

Vesey on the other hand hasn’t shown much of anything. he’s a -37 for his career and avg. .38 pts/gm. for his career. So I do agree he has to go.

 

If multi players have to go, I would say Vesey should be the 1st to go, Nieves 2nd( we have Howden & Andersson who can be our 4th line center) Fast 3rd( he’s 27 and has missed games due to injury the last 3 yrs to the tune of 16, 11 & 14. I would like to keep him tho’ but if we have to make moves then I understand people have to be moved so....) Namestnikov 4th and Strome 5th—if it gets the far.

 

 

 

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You're making up a lot about what people think of Strome, and reallllllly stretching the idea that he centered Lucic as having an impact. I could say the same thing about Vesey playing with Fast, Glass, etc.

 

His goal scoring is a production spike, driven by an unsustainable shooting percentage, because he generates fewer shots per game this year than any other. At his career SH%, 10%, he has 8 goals. It's not what people see, it's exactly what has happened.

 

Strome playing with grit is off, his entire game is finding space. Not sure how 53 hits in 63 games Strome - less than 1 per game on a team that stresses physical play - is somehow more gritty than 79 hits in 81 games Vesey.

 

DGAF if he's a righty.

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