BrooksBurner Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I would trade Kreider either way. That's not what I meant. Talking strictly about bringing in UFA's. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I may agree depending on the strategy here. If they, - sign Panarin: I would consider trading him in a deal for a good, young top 4 type defenseman. Possibly a forward if they could find one that makes this a Brassard/Zibanejad type deal. Otherwise, I can't really wrap my head around spending the money on Panarin to then dismantle the roster in succession. - don't sign Panarin: Game for anything. Could be a young defender now or just a package of prospects and picks...don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Kreider's value is highest at the draft, before free agency even starts. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Kreider's value is highest at the draft, before free agency even starts. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Whatever the difference might be, if any, the decision probably shouldn't be made until free agency has happened. It's a hard sell for Panarin on coming here after you just trade Kreider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 If rumors are to believed panarin maybe more concerned with lifestyle than he is with how good the team is. Supposedly Florida is hot for him and surely that team is closer to contending and no state tax. Not sure if Miami has a large Russian population but it will be interesting if he has any feelings for them. Speculation for almost a year is that the rangers are a forgone conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 The rangers should have a plan in place with how they want to build their team and targets both in the draft and around the league in which to achieve that team. Missing out on one player hopefully isn’t reason to have to scrap whatever plan they have. That plan should have been in place long before they knew panarin would reach free agency. Yet you are probably right they have no other plan. It’s exactly this dysfunction that has led to one cup in 75 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinutesForNothing Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Adam Fox, one of the best D prospects in all of hockey is basically a Ranger next offseason. Not signing in Carolina, is from NY, is a massive Rangers fan and idolizes Leetch. He's right handed. We're so stacked with D prospects. We should go all forwards in this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I know it’s speculation but articles are appearing that macdavid may ask in private to be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 What would it even take to get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfrancesa Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 For starters cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 What would it even take to get him Colorado could make a pretty good offer, and has the cap space. #1 OA this year, ~#17 OA this year, 2019 1st rounder, a young roster player (Kefoot, Compher, or Jost), Kuat, and maybe another prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Tough one...if you mortgage our future just to get him (both 1sts this year and probably next years as well) then you probably just end up like Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 They wouldn't be mortgaging the future. MacKinnon (23), McDavid (22), Rantanen (22) are the present and future. They'd be the Crosby/Malkin of the next decade. Or you talking about the Rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 As badly as I would want McDavid, I can only imagine what the cost would be. I would guess multiple 1st round picks, multiple prospects/young players (Chytil, K Miller, Kravtsov), and probably at least 1 good roster player (Kreider?). I don't see how any potential trade wouldn't crush this team unless this price is terribly off, which I don't think it would be for probably the best player in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 They wouldn't be mortgaging the future. MacKinnon (23), McDavid (22), Rantanen (22) are the present and future. They'd be the Crosby/Malkin of the next decade. Or you talking about the Rangers? Sorry, I was talking about the Rangers. We posted at about the same time. I agree that Colorado would be a better fit without being as detrimental to their makeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 As badly as I would want McDavid, I can only imagine what the cost would be. I would guess multiple 1st round picks, multiple prospects/young players (Chytil, K Miller, Kravtsov), and probably at least 1 good roster player (Kreider?). I don't see how any potential trade wouldn't crush this team unless this price is terribly off, which I don't think it would be for probably the best player in the NHL. I don't think we have the assets to offer them anything that would bring McJesus here. Really trying to piece something together. But the point of McDavid requesting a trade would be to have a chance at playoff hockey in the future. If we trade everything to get him, we're still a lottery pick team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 McDavid deal would be tough to win for whomever gets him. Ask would just be too high. Need to wait it out a long time so Edmonton's leverage is eroded. Once he's openly asking for trade their leverage will begin to disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I don't think we have the assets to offer them anything that would bring McJesus here. Really trying to piece something together. But the point of McDavid requesting a trade would be to have a chance at playoff hockey in the future. If we trade everything to get him, we're still a lottery pick team Man...we could have 4 1st rounders pending the playoffs, and have had 5 1st picks in the last 24 months. We absolutely have the assets to bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Man...we could have 4 1st rounders pending the playoffs, and have had 5 1st picks in the last 24 months. We absolutely have the assets to bring him in.Well one is Lias... So I'm not really sure. It's not just about 4 mediocre 20 year olds for the best player on the planet in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Man...we could have 4 1st rounders pending the playoffs, and have had 5 1st picks in the last 24 months. We absolutely have the assets to bring him in. McDavid has to demand a trade. That hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I?d trade any 3 draft picks plus any two current players for Mcdavid. Kravstov Shesthyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2020 1st Or Shestyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2019 1st 2020 1st Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I?d trade any 3 draft picks plus any two current players for Mcdavid. Kravstov Shesthyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2020 1st Or Shestyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2019 1st 2020 1st Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Those are actually some good offers to try and get McDavid but right now the offer to trade Kreider might not work because Kreids has a modified no-trade clause but EDM might want to take his expiring contract. That could also give us an incentive to sign Kreider in free agency once his contract expires at the end of next season. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Those are actually some good offers to try and get McDavid but right now the offer to trade Kreider might not work because Kreids has a modified no-trade clause but EDM might want to take his expiring contract. That could also give us an incentive to sign Kreider in free agency once his contract expires at the end of next season. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers Good point. Gotta figure Edmonton is probably on his no trade list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I?d trade any 3 draft picks plus any two current players for Mcdavid. Kravstov Shesthyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2020 1st Or Shestyorkin Chytil Kreider 2019 1st 2019 1st 2020 1st Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I would think the first trade could get it done but substitute Zibanajed for Kreider. If I?m Edmonton and I?m trading my best player I want the best player from the other team. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 It's too dangerous. McDavid is unable to make the Oilers viable even with a legit 50 goal scorer riding shotgun. Trading that many resources for a single player makes us no different than they are. Edmonton also isn't going to trade him for any package at this point. This is only the 1st phase of discontent. It's going to take another full season similar to this before it starts to look like reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 It's too dangerous. McDavid is unable to make the Oilers viable even with a legit 50 goal scorer riding shotgun. Trading that many resources for a single player makes us no different than they are. Edmonton also isn't going to trade him for any package at this point. This is only the 1st phase of discontent. It's going to take another full season similar to this before it starts to look like reality.McDavid will carry this like some Medieval curse. Any team he arrives at is destined to suck because it has to be stripped to get him. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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