Pete Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Much better place than the AHLBased on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Based on what? Well, it's a bit of both really. There are more skill guys playing top 6 roles in the KHL than in the A. But parity is much more of an issue and the bottom 6 guys are often at a significant level below. I don't think it's necessarily true that the KHL is a superior place to be for a developing goalie, particularly when you factor in he's playing for such a good team and at some point he needs to adapt to NA ice. From Shestyorkins perspective I can see why he'd choose to play for SKA on more money over humping the bus in Hartford though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well, it's a bit of both really. There are more skill guys playing top 6 roles in the KHL than in the A. But parity is much more of an issue and the bottom 6 guys are often at a significant level below. I don't think it's necessarily true that the KHL is a superior place to be for a developing goalie, particularly when you factor in he's playing for such a good team and at some point he needs to adapt to NA ice. From Shestyorkins perspective I can see why he'd choose to play for SKA on more money over humping the bus in Hartford though.I hear you and mostly agree. I just don't get blanket statements like "The KHL is just better". Better at what? For who? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 A lot more traffic and net front battles in NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The KHL is full of players who couldn't have the NHL and we're saying it's a good place to develop goalies? Stop. Also no reason to trade Geogiev if he's a product of Allaire. We have Allaire. Not sure what the issue is. But what do you do with him if Shesterkin comes over and shows he's ready to play half a year with Hank? Stick him back in Hartford? Could they roll 3 goalies and healthy scratch one every night? I've never seen that done before but even if Shesterkin doesn't come I don't see Hank playing more than 45 games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hanks not going anywhere till he retires and you have your potential starter coming over (hopefully) from Russia, you almost have to move georgiev. Might explain why he’s getting more starts recently. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk The elephant in the room; NOBODY walks away from that kind of scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 But what do you do with him if Shesterkin comes over and shows he's ready to play half a year with Hank? Stick him back in Hartford? Could they roll 3 goalies and healthy scratch one every night? I've never seen that done before but even if Shesterkin doesn't come I don't see Hank playing more than 45 games next season. Not today. Well into the 1980s it was common. Late 1970s NYR had Sotaert/Baker/Davidson, and into the late 1980s, Froese/Beezer/Richter.Cap changed all that. Nobody is paying NHL cap room for a 3rd goalie to watch the game from the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The living and team conditions in the AHL are far superior to the KHL. From coaching, structure, hotels, travel, pretty much everything. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The living and team conditions in the AHL are far superior to the KHL. From coaching, structure, hotels, travel, pretty much everything. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk That’s entirely dependent on where you play. With SKA that isn’t the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well, it's a bit of both really. There are more skill guys playing top 6 roles in the KHL than in the A. But parity is much more of an issue and the bottom 6 guys are often at a significant level below. I don't think it's necessarily true that the KHL is a superior place to be for a developing goalie, particularly when you factor in he's playing for such a good team and at some point he needs to adapt to NA ice. From Shestyorkins perspective I can see why he'd choose to play for SKA on more money over humping the bus in Hartford though. I would expect this coming camp, like the last, to be highly competitive. Lot o'kids with dreams of becoming the next Brett Howden and making the team out of camp. If they grant Igor's condition that he not have to compete and must play in the NHL, potentially jumping the line on Georgiev, wouldn't that somewhat undercut the meritocracy (or maybe effortocracy) that Quinn seems to be trying to build? I wouldn't want to see him start out with prima donna stamped on his forehead. Maybe he is just good enough for everyone to look past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 The elephant in the room; NOBODY walks away from that kind of scratch. Huh? Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 The living and team conditions in the AHL are far superior to the KHL. From coaching, structure, hotels, travel, pretty much everything. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I was behind the scene at a Marlies game a couple months ago, post game spread was chicken fingers and frozen meatballs. That's it. Nothing else. Chicken fingers and frozen meatballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I would expect this coming camp, like the last, to be highly competitive. Lot o'kids with dreams of becoming the next Brett Howden and making the team out of camp. If they grant Igor's condition that he not have to compete and must play in the NHL, potentially jumping the line on Georgiev, wouldn't that somewhat undercut the meritocracy (or maybe effortocracy) that Quinn seems to be trying to build? I wouldn't want to see him start out with prima donna stamped on his forehead. Maybe he is just good enough for everyone to look past it. I think it would undercut the meritocracy. And I'm not entirely sure the Rangers should be giving out guarantees. The question is, what's on the table from SKA vs what's on the table from the Rangers. If, for arguments sake, it's 3 times the money to re sign with SKA or risk ending up in Hartford then I would sort of see his reason for staying on for a few years. And that puts the Rangers in a bind, assuming they're as high on him as everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 That?s entirely dependent on where you play. With SKA that isn?t the case. But even SKA has to spend 1/2 their time on the road. In that respect, the KHL resembles a Jr team Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 But even SKA has to spend 1/2 their time on the road. In that respect, the KHL resembles a Jr team Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Being on the road is probably better than being stuck in hartford by yourself, for a young Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Once Shestorkyin comes over it makes Georgiev expendable due to the expansion draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 But even SKA has to spend 1/2 their time on the road. In that respect, the KHL resembles a Jr team Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Not even close if you play for SKA. Those guys are catered for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Sickkkkk Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Pure filth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I would favor a new forum rule that any poster advocating trading Georgie in favor of Shestokyin must preface his remarks by disclosing exactly how many games he has seen Shestorkin play. Fair? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Why? He's a known commodity. How many games did you watch McDavid play this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 12-14 or so on McDavid. Igor Shesterkin is hardly a NHL known quantity until he does it here nothing else truly matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Look at it this way. Shesterkin has a five year KHL deal in hand and would sign it if forced to Hartford for an entire season. What do you do? Keep Georgiev, demote Georgiev, beg Hank to leave, or move on from Shesty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Who is Georgiev?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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