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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Rick Nash.

    And they're never made available unless they bust, so I'm not really sure what kind of point that is you're making.

    I've argued repeatedly that drafting that player, rather than buying them in free agency as the team has done for decades, is a better solution given the age and price factor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    The same as a high draft pick, plus playoff games and a chance to win the cup.
    That's unequivocally false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    Not everyone, but a load of people who knew nothing about him.
    I’m honestly not sure what the point is here.
    Even the people who knew something about him were not over the moon, to say otherwise is revisionist history.

    It wasn't until days/weeks later that people warmed up to the pick.

    And you know what, josh? Who cares? I'm not allowed to be pissed at a pick at the draft, and then change my mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Odds are you’ll be obsessed with another set of late first-round draft picks.

    I don’t think I can remember a top 5 picked guy you wanted to acquire after he was drafted
    Gaby.

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    FA signing.

    Perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Even the people who knew something about him were not over the moon, to say otherwise is revisionist history.

    It wasn't until days/weeks later that people warmed up to the pick.

    And you know what, josh? Who cares? I'm not allowed to be pissed at a pick at the draft, and then change my mind?
    I was happy with the pick. Several others were as well. Check the thread if you can be bothered.
    People like Pronman loved the pick.

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    Kravtsov was a guy I reacted negatively toward but was talked into liking a lot more after the fact. But this was because I was resigned to Wahlstrom. Similar to Pettersson/Mittelstadt/Andersson from the prior draft.


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    We’ll talk you into liking the guy we take at 31
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Weíll talk you into liking the guy we take at 31
    The one we get for Zucc or Hayes from the eventual cup champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The one we get for Zucc or Hayes from the eventual cup champ.
    When we win the whole fucking thing!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    This again? I've explained it already. Go dig those threads up.


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    Because it didnít make sense back then either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Because it didnít make sense back then either
    Yes it did. He wanted to see AO win. It's good for hockey. Christ Almighty... Don't make me come up there.

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    It don’t make sense

    Based on ODDS
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    It made perfect sense. As a hockey fan, which I am first, I wanted to see Ovechkin win. So as a Rangers fan, which I am second, I let my hockey fandom trump my Rangers' desires. Especially because the Rangers still have an opportunity to win that same pick should Tampa (Go Bolts!) win this year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    It made perfect sense. As a hockey fan, which I am first, I wanted to see Ovechkin win. So as a Rangers fan, which I am second, I let my hockey fandom trump my Rangers' desires. Especially because the Rangers still have an opportunity to win that same pick should Tampa (Go Bolts!) win this year.


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    Finally this guy's sayin some shit that makes sense.

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    Took me long enough, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Finally this guy's sayin some shit that makes sense.
    Lay off the weed
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    Interesting read that goes with our conversation on the importance (or not) of draft pick position:
    https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...everybody-else

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    The dominance of players drafted in the first round is startling. If you broke out players drafted in the first half of the first round, I think you would also see eye opening dominance. The message to me is don't expect to do that much building by trading solid veteran performers for late first round or second round picks.

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