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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    And Nylander's agent is going to come back to percentage of cap and tell them "take whatever those guys make, determine the percentage of the available cap, and apply it here. We'll take that." It's probably somewhere in the range of $7M per.
    Which I assume has already happened and the Leafs have already said "William isn't David, so here's $6."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The Leafs are going to tell Nylander, "Pasta makes this, and Barkov makes that, and we're not paying you X more than they're getting paid", and they're going to do that because they want that barometer or metric for Marner and Mattews.

    Use whatever players you want instead of Pasta and Barkov, the sentiment applies. And they have all the leverage.
    Marner and Matthews are going to be pointing at McDavid and Eichel, not Pastrnak and Barkov...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Which I assume has already happened and the Leafs have already said "William isn't David, so here's $6."
    ...and that's why they're where they are. So, trade him already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Marner and Matthews are going to be pointing at McDavid and Eichel, not Pastrnak and Barkov...
    Obviously. That's not my point. The point is that if they don't manage Nylander's #, they aren't even going to be able to pay Matthews and Marner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    ...and that's why they're where they are. So, trade him already.
    I'm sure they are, and I'm sure they're not getting value proposals. They'll likely want him:

    1. Out of the east, or out of the division
    2. Get similar talent level back, that is
    3. Not expensive and/or cost controlled

    And the acquiring team needs to:

    1. Have assets
    2. Be willing to part with them
    3. Have cap space

    Trades are hard. At the end of the day, fair or not, the Leafs have the leverage if Nylander wants to play in the NHL. They are winning just fine without him.

    If not, he can live comfortably on a KHL or SEL salary in Sweden....

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    someone have a AAV calculator for this contract? A lot of the teams out west dont have the cap space to take on the higher cap hit for this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Obviously. That's not my point. The point is that if they don't manage Nylander's #, they aren't even going to be able to pay Matthews and Marner.
    Well yea. Toronto is in a tough spot going forward. Thanks Marleau. That doesn't mean Nylander isn't worth $7M just because Toronto cant afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Well yea. Toronto is in a tough spot going forward. Thanks Marleau. That doesn't mean Nylander isn't worth $7M just because Toronto cant afford it.

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    No, but he's not worth that when better players in similar circumstances make less.

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    I'm not sure Pastrnak and Gaudreau are comparing apples and apples, because in a hypothetical world where they're signing new contracts now there's no way they're signing for 6.6 x 6.
    That being said I think it's reasonable to question the worth of Nylander and how good he is when not playing alongside Matthews. He's obviously good, but is capable of driving his line and being "the" guy?
    I'm not sure. There's a good chance a guy like Buchnevich would look incredible next to Matthews.

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    Rangers Sending Two Scouts to Leafs/Pens Game; Nylander?

    Well apparently there’s a testicle on the line that he would easily do it with Zib and Chytil instead of Matthews
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    Is there a time deadline today for him to sign or just before the end of the day?

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    The only thing I'm certain of is that he's not going to be traded at this point.

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    I really think he sits out.

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    I think so too.
    Seems unlikely they'll find a deal both parties are happy with in the 11th hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I really think he sits out.
    If he were to sit out could he play in the Swedish league or KHL ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    I think so too.
    Seems unlikely they'll find a deal both parties are happy with in the 11th hour.
    i would be utterly flabbergasted if Nylander sits out. Hard to believe you guys think that is the likely outcome.

    I think it was Kevin McGran who reported that Anaheim would not part with Josh Manson and Nick Ritchie for Willy. I'm sure they just do not want to trade Manson, period. If they'd be willing, I'd send them Hayes and Zuc for Manson alone.

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    I think he'll sign on Torontos terms. He'll take the less term or money just so he can play on a contending Toronto team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    I think he'll sign on Torontos terms. He'll take the less term or money just so he can play on a contending Toronto team.
    Even if they can't get him lower than 6.9mil, they will still sign him and trade him later or in the offseason. Silly to think Toronto is going to shoot themselves in the foot over a few hundred thousand.

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