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    Defense and goalie were terrible tonight. Yikes. Deangelo was shit...dont know what people are seeing in him. Hes about the worst defenseman Ive ever seen in his own zone. It is a literal nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Shattenkirk played 4 minutes at even strength?

    lmao
    He's garbage. What a terrible fucking signing. At a terrible time. More delusions that we were one player away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    He took 2 dumb and untimely penalties. I don't think he played poorly. Just think he doesn't think when he over does it with the dropping of the gloves and punching guys on the ice... It's just not smart and not really needed at the times he does it.
    This is just not true. One penalty was a coincidental minor. The other was an interference which looked like a bad call (announcer noted ADA going for the puck) with the game already in the bag.

    He played a terrific game, changing partners every shift, numerous tape to tape passes, two resulting in primary assists. Don't believe me, listen to the coach who had nothing but very good things to say about him while he criticized the D.

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    I've only seen the condensed game, but it seemed as if Quinn was going full on Torts with the lines there in the end?
    I quite like it tbh. Seems like he's holding people to task and isn't afraid to sit guys who aren't performing on a game by game basis. Good stuff.

    Did we go with 7 d's and basically told Shatty to play PP and otherwise take a seat by Lundqvist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    He's garbage. What a terrible fucking signing. At a terrible time. More delusions that we were one player away.
    Does it make anyone a little worried that this whole rebuilding thing wasn't very well thought out?

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    Good for Quinn. Sitting Shattenkirk was the obvious thing to do but seems obvious things like that are hard to come by the past years. I agree with josh about losing not being great for the future. However it’s not like they are t trying or underachieving. Most importantly they are being held accountable and players are rewarded and disciplined for their play. That is the right foundation to rebuild on and I believe this team is going in the right direction. Quinn has the hardest part down. Discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Does it make anyone a little worried that this whole rebuilding thing wasn't very well thought out?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Does it make anyone a little worried that this whole rebuilding thing wasn't very well thought out?
    I'm no sure how signing Shatty has any relevance to the rebuild at all?
    To me it seems like it's been pretty well thought out. As in, it's an all-in actual rebuid and not some fucking halfway house like in the past. Whether our not the drafting and acquisitions are any good won't be clear until we get a couple of years down the line.
    As for now, the kids are on the ice scoring points and the Rangers are losing. Happy days.

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    I disagree a guy like Shattenkirk is a part of the problem and not the solution. That was not the plan when he was signed. He didn't sign a short term deal to be a passenger on a two year deal.

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    But the signing is unrelated to the rebuild. He was signed as a last piece of the puzzle kind of guy, long before the decision to tear it all down was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    But the signing is unrelated to the rebuild. He was signed as a last piece of the puzzle kind of guy, long before the decision to tear it all down was made.
    I hear you. At the end of the day it doesn't matter to me why, when or how he got here he should be way better than he's been but instead he's been dreadful. If they some how can unload him great but for now he's been terrible when he is supposed to be a good piece one of the very few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    But the signing is unrelated to the rebuild. He was signed as a last piece of the puzzle kind of guy, long before the decision to tear it all down was made.
    30 games is long before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    But the signing is unrelated to the rebuild. He was signed as a last piece of the puzzle kind of guy, long before the decision to tear it all down was made.
    Why on earth did they think Shattenkirk was the last piece? They already traded Stepan for the #7, so the decision to start a rebuild was made then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    30 games is long before
    Well, he was signed on July 1. The decision to tear it down was made half a year later. At point A they saw themselves as contenders, at point B they saw themselves as a rebuilding project.
    I'm not even sure what your point is, are you criticizing management for not understanding a full rebuild was needed that summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Why on earth did they think Shattenkirk was the last piece? They already traded Stepan for the #7, so the decision to start a rebuild was made then.
    They decided to tear it all down post xmas. It was not seen as a rebuild in the summer and they saw themselves as contenders at the time.
    I'm not saying it was a great signing btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    They decided to tear it all down post xmas. It was not seen as a rebuild in the summer and they saw themselves as contenders at the time.
    I'm not saying it was a great signing btw.
    But I think that's Dunny's point...It wasn't well thought out if they felt Shattenkirk was the last piece after trading their #1 center and not having a very good team overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    But I think that's Dunny's point...It wasn't well thought out if they felt Shattenkirk was the last piece after trading their #1 center and not having a very good team overall.
    Right, I think it’s fair to criticise the decisions made that summer; they’ve been proven wrong. Although to be fair I don’t recall too many calls for a full rebuild at the time.
    I don’t think it’s fair to use the Shatty signing as an example of a poorly thought out rebuild. I guess at least if you accept that the rebuild was set in motion half a year later, with the organization in a vastly different frame of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    But I think that's Dunny's point...It wasn't well thought out if they felt Shattenkirk was the last piece after trading their #1 center and not having a very good team overall.
    To be fair, it was Smith & Shattenkirk, and most of the Rangers universe was completely on board.
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    Fans probably undervalued Stepan quite a bit

    I was aboard the Shattenkirk train at the time too mainly because the years weren't excessive and our PP was crap

    With that said, he really isn't a hindrance. You can argue that he's taking the spot of a youngster, but none of them are quite ready yet. And when they are, I'm sure they will get their chance regardless of Shatty. Hardly any locks on D right now

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    The only question i have with the Shat trade was what did they think they were getting. from what i could tell the guy was never a 1D. The only thing I could see was they thought he'd be a good PP specialist and remain on the 2nd pair. Maybe they made this deal prior to foreseeing that they were going to tear this down though don't think that argument holds water given the Steps trade.

    At least the contract is not a total albatross.
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