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    Rangers/Flyers Preseason Game #2 • 9/19/18 • 7pm, MSG

    "Everyone says you should be a good loser. If you’re a good loser, you’re a loser."
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    Glad to see Zibs in the lineup. I'd imagine it wasn't concussion related since he's in.

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    DeAngelo and Buch are the only repeats. These two are moving from the coach's doghouse to coach's pet. Pet project, I mean.

    Where's Shattenkirk?
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    DeAngelo, I'd bet, is getting every opportunity to make this team. The fact he's in back-to-back and not Pionk, for example, is probably a precursor. Pionk is still waivers-exempt. DeAngelo isn't.
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    ADA should make this team. He has all the tools. What he needs to be is coached, and he has the temperament Quinn wants.

    If he isn't on the roster, at least as an extra, I'd question if there's something behind the scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post

    Where's Shattenkirk?
    And Zuccarello?

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    There's really no reason to play them, yet. There's a lot of cuts to be made. Everyone playing either has something to prove, plus you're required to dress some regulars, even in a PS game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    There's really no reason to play them, yet. There's a lot of cuts to be made. Everyone playing either has something to prove, plus you're required to dress some regulars, even in a PS game.
    I didn't know that. Is it a rule that says that?

    Looking forward to this game, interesting center depth here with Zib, Chytil and Howden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc View Post
    I didn't know that. Is it a rule that says that?

    Looking forward to this game, interesting center depth here with Zib, Chytil and Howden.
    Yes, because teams force you to buy the PS games if you're a STH. So they are required to put some talent out there.

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    Ah, gotcha. Didn't know that tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    DeAngelo, I'd bet, is getting every opportunity to make this team. The fact he's in back-to-back and not Pionk, for example, is probably a precursor. Pionk is still waivers-exempt. DeAngelo isn't.
    He keeps playing the way he did and he is going to do more than make this team. I think the coach has a lot of projects, but I bet the coach and GM agreed it is time for Buch and DeAngelo to play a large role this year. Be interesting to see if he gets paired with Skjei tonight to test a new top pairing. Or maybe Quinn pairs him with Hajek.

    Zuc sitting early makes more sense then anyone else. Shatty though, missed more than half the year and was still rehabbing during the draft. Wonder how his progress is going?

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    That rule is also why some teams add a bunch of PTOs who they have no intention of signing. The Rangers aren't one of them, but Pete has it right.


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    Quinn was not happy with the lack of response to the headshot last game. Says he’s addressed it. Seems like old habits of being complete pushovers die hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Quinn was not happy with the lack of response to the headshot last game. Says he’s addressed it. Seems like old habits of being complete pushovers die hard.
    Interesting.

    So here we are with a coach that does not want the team to take headshots, w/o responding. Watch things change around here. And I'm not one for chippy/dirty play, but I was pounded on here for saying AV instilled a 'turn-the-other-cheek' for the PP preference, instead of any retaliation. Players were benched for taking a retaliation penalty. We don't have to initiate assholetry, but we can't let teams try to run our skilled players out of the building, as a key strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    Interesting.

    So here we are with a coach that does not want the team to take headshots, w/o responding. Watch things change around here. And I'm not one for chippy/dirty play, but I was pounded on here for saying AV instilled a 'turn-the-other-cheek' for the PP preference, instead of any retaliation. Players were benched for taking a retaliation penalty. We don't have to initiate assholetry, but we can't let teams try to run our skilled players out of the building, as a key strategy.
    Of course and I don't think you were alone in those sentiments over the last few seasons. To be blunt, we were a team of pussies. The game may have changed some but it's still hockey. Seems like he's also been preaching the message of "go through rather than around" which would be a welcomed sight for me as well.
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    I still can't believe no one fucked up Cody Eakin when he ran Lundqvist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    I still can't believe no one fucked up Cody Eakin when he ran Lundqvist.
    Larry Brooks mentioned the double head shot to Vesey and Staal in a 1:52 span that went unpunished. I had honestly forgotten about that. So many moments of head scratching for me. Even the Brendan Smith fight in LA -- which was seemingly the last fight the Rangers had before OGara dropped the gloves two nights ago -- was seen as a negative by AV.

    I'm just so glad that that kind of shit is over with now. Question is, are we now trying to paint tiger stripes on a house cat? Are any of these guys even capable of standing up for teammates? Because it's not just going to come down to McQuaid. McCloud was in the game two nights ago and still did nothing. Someone on the ice needs to respond when it happens, no matter who's on the ice.
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    Any vids of the headshots?
    I didn't get a chance to see the game.
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    Quinn said after the game that he didnt have issue with the Rangers not retaliating, said it happened fast, caught off guard, not everyone saw it to see what was happening.
    This seems like Larry twisting words, as usual.

    Also, the hit was awkward. It was head on head.

    Finally, Boo was skating with his head down. Last thing any teammate or coach needs to do is rescue a guy crossing the blueline staring at his skates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    Any vids of the headshots?
    I didn't get a chance to see the game.
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